One of the Conservative Bitters Planned Mass Murder of Christian Congregation.

[Eazy E]

McCain is unsuited to hold office but Barack Obama is?  Good one.   

Based on the FACTS that:
1. McCain stated Czechoslovakia is still a country,
2. McCain stated that Iraq and Pakistan share a border
3. He doesn't know/recognize the difference between Sunni and Shia.
4. His CHIEF foreign policy advisor is one of the Project for a New American Century guys who was literally wrong in every prognostication and predicition for the war in Iraq and the WMD justifications for it.

These from a guy whose "expertise" is foreign policy.

5. He has been on the air blantanly lying about this "Obama wouldn't visit the troops because cameras weren't present" when he knew it was false.
6.  His former chief economic advisor, Phil Gramm,'s love of deregulation of banks can easily be viewed as one of the, if not the, major reason for our current economic mess.

In short, McCain is completely unsuited to hold office.

[Eazy E]

Gentlemen.

As pressing as this election may be, and as ferociously as I agree with one of you.

Can we please cofine the electioneering to a thread that doesnt stand over the grave of two dead people?

Havent enough innocent liberals died at the hands of this conservative Bitter that we can show some respect for the dead?

fair enough. i took the bait- my bad.

[RiversideGator]

What was the purpose of this thread again?

[Driven1]

btw, i'm sure most know this, but Unitarian Universalist is not "Christian".  therefore, this was not a Christian congregation.  a terrible tragedy nonetheless.

Unitarian Universalism (UUism) is a theologically liberal religion characterized by its support for a "free and responsible search for truth and meaning." Unitarian Universalists do not share a creed; rather, they are unified by their shared search for spiritual growth. Unitarian Universalists draw on many different theological sources and have a wide range of beliefs and practices.

Both Unitarianism and Universalism trace their origins to Christian Protestantism and thus Unitarian Universalism has its historical roots in the Christian faith. But by the time they decided to combine their efforts at the continental level, the theological significance of these terms had expanded beyond the traditional Christian understanding. Today’s UUs appreciate and value aspects of other religions ranging from Judaism to Jainism. Although Unitarian Universalist congregations and fellowships tend to retain some Christian traditions, such as Sunday worship with a sermon and the singing of hymns, they do not necessarily identify themselves as Christians nor do they necessarily subscribe to Christian beliefs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism

as I said...this was a terrible tragedy.

[avonjax]

You often quote Bible Scriptures and make them work for what you believe...
You need to study more and deeper...

[avonjax]

Was his flesh the physical flesh of God?

Or was his Spirit?

What was it that made him actually Divine?  What part or aspect of him was "Divine"  and how would you explain that?

He was God, in the flesh and in spirit at the same time.  He was God in every way imaginable - even while on earth and in the flesh.  Fully and completely.  We know this from Colossians.

Colossians 1:19 - "For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,"

If he was physically divine, then why bother with the human birth process?   Why did he die?

First, why bother with the human birth process? 

One answer is to fulfil the prophecies set forth from LONG before.  God always keeps His promises.  It was common knowledge among the Jews that God had promised His Messiah would come from the line of King David.  2 Samuel 7:16 - "Your house and your kingdom shall endure forever before me; your throne shall be established forever."  The Jews knew that David would die (he did) and so for God to fulfill his promise to the Jews, the Messiah would have to be a linear descendent of David. 

Also, God HAD to come to earth through his Son to fufill the law of God and as a sin sacrifice. 

Romans 8:3 - "For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,"

No ordinary man could ever - and has never - keep the law of God.  Therefore God had to come Himself to fulfill the law and make a way of salvation, "first for the Jews and then for the Gentiles". 

And why did he die?

He died that we may have life.  Before Christ, we are all "dead in our sins" (Eph 2:1) and under the condemnation of God (Romans 1:18) due to our inability to fulfill the law. 

Christ made "propitiation for the sins of the people".  That is, on the cross, he satisfied the just and holy wrath of God that God would have otherwise poured out on all of humanity.  Through Christ He made a way for reconciliation of mankind to Himself for those who believe in Him (Acts 16:31), receive Him (John 1:12), repent from sin (Acts 3:19), continue in His word (John 8:31) and obey Him (Hebrews 5:9).  And none of this through efforts of our own, but rather "by grace through faith" in Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8 ).

Romans 5:11 - "And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation."

As the Bible says God sent his SON to earth not himself....
You need to study more

[Driven1]

He succeeded in convincing the board to make them invisible to everyone except signed up members.

Lunican made this decision on his own.  I found out about it a week afterwards.

Now continue on with your obsession...

[Driven1]

You need to study more and deeper...

I agree.  You sound like an expert.  Any other suggestions?

[nomoremyths]

Still more of the thumper arguments.
Crazy. One thumper kills some more religious people over religion, and then you people fight with each other over the imaginary people in the sky.  Will people start getting killed from this site too?

[nomoremyths]

Waaah thumper.  Welcome to the site yourself.

[jbm32206]

Glad to see everyone's playing nice.....

[fhrathore]

really driven? really nomyths? please grow up and stop acting like kids. this isnt elementary school anymore.

[nomoremyths]

I don't even know this guy and he just started out with calling me 'lefty' and shit.  The guy is obviously a bully.

[fhrathore]

whatever, clearly nomyths and driven are incappable of growing up and acting mature. please, both of you, stop your stupid, mindless bickering. i dont care who started it, just stop it. this isnt the place for it. go to another website and argue, but not here. i think i am not the only one here who thinks that Metrojacksonville should not be associated with driven's and nomyths' style of 'debating'

[jbm32206]

Making an assumption as to who may or may not be behind someone joining the forum and taking part in the ongoing discussion, is irrelevant. It seems that the two of you buck heads on many of those issues. The idea is, be respectful of different views, opinions, etc. No name calling and stop to foolishness. It gets old, really quick.