Trump Administration

[thelakelander]

"The Packers should be the NFC North leaders right now because they have scored 274 total points this season whereas the Lions have only scored 244.  The fact that the Lions are 7 and 4 and the Packers are 5 and 6 should be irrelevant. I like the Packers.  The NFL needs to change their rules because I prefer the Packers..."

I know what you were attempting to do but your example represents the opposite. The winners and losers of an NFL game are directly decided by the actual participants on the field, in head-to-head matchups. With this particular topic, they'd represent the popular vote.

If you went to a points based system, you'd create a situation where the players have less influence on the result. A suit in the NFL office could influence the amount of overall points a team could put up over a season through scheduling and individual team game location. For example, a decent offense playing most of its games in a climate controlled dome or good weather conditions will most likely put up more points than one playing more games in rain and snow. This would be more representative of the EC.

[Adam White]

Or, you know, we could just accept that the NFL and presidential elections are completely different things. Just a thought.

[blizz01]

Fair enough.

I just can't help notice though, how this site has manifested into a repository for butt-hurt political views instead of what (I believe?) it was originally intended to be - as I rifle through countless threads essentially saying the same thing ad nauseum.  Seems to have been hijacked, really.  2¢ .

[Adam White]

Fair enough.

I just can't help notice though, how this site has manifested into a repository for butt-hurt political views instead of what (I believe?) it was originally intended to be - as I rifle through countless threads essentially saying the same thing ad nauseum.  Seems to have been hijacked, really.  2¢ .

Well, this bit of butt-hurt (I loathe that term, btw) wouldn't have happened if a particular poster hadn't brought up the electoral college. It's actually not the "butt hurty" ones who are responsible here.

[Adam White]

Fair enough.

I just can't help notice though, how this site has manifested into a repository for butt-hurt political views instead of what (I believe?) it was originally intended to be - as I rifle through countless threads essentially saying the same thing ad nauseum.  Seems to have been hijacked, really.  2¢ .

Well, this bit of butt-hurt (I loathe that term, btw) wouldn't have happened if a particular poster hadn't brought up the electoral college. It's actually not the "butt hurty" ones who are responsible here.

And I like the discussion.  I grew up in the generation that had mandatory civics classes, and its astonishing to me that so many grown adults don't have that knowledge.

These discussions over the past couple of weeks have actually been some of the finest dissections of basics civics that its been my pleasure to read in a long time.

Most of the discussions are pretty tame. And the politics ones are politics ones - we kind of expect those to be a bit different. But it's not like the forum is becoming a politics - or "butt hurt" - forum. There are plenty of good other topics right now (like the Hart bridge ones, for example).

[MusicMan]

Agree about the butt hurt ridiculousness. No one is arguing Trump won the EC, only about it's purpose, history, and usefulness going forward.  Oh yeah, and the "Republican mandate" thing. When the other candidate gets 2,000,000 more votes, there ain't no mandate.

Re-posting Trumps comments (aka 'Tweets' ) on the EC in 2012:  "It's a disaster for our country."  In 2016 :  "It's brilliant."

Pretty sure you will see a lot of this in the coming years, Trump completely reversing his position as he actually "learns" about the issues.

[BridgeTroll]

The use of Twitter to keep track of the who and not whos for the Trump Administration is reaching a feverish pitch.

Goldman Sachs COO is being considered for WH Budget Office
Sarah Palin is being considered for Veterans Affairs
Preet Bharara turned down any role with Trump, he is a top prosecutor in Manhattan district
Steve Mnuchin will be Treasury secretary

Mattis as SecDef is an awesome pick...

[finehoe]

Mattis as SecDef is an awesome pick...

I don't really know anything about him.  Hopefully he's not as incompetent as David Petraeus or as bat-shit crazy as Mike Flynn.

[Adam White]

As Trump has clearly said, if the contest was to win the popular vote his very effective strategy would have been modified and likely just as effective. That's the cold, hard truth. But if you're dismissive of a candidate winning 3,084 out of 3,151 counties in this nation you have a very warped understanding of this country.

Apparently those numbers are basically made up:

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

[Tacachale]

As Trump has clearly said, if the contest was to win the popular vote his very effective strategy would have been modified and likely just as effective. That's the cold, hard truth. But if you're dismissive of a candidate winning 3,084 out of 3,151 counties in this nation you have a very warped understanding of this country.

Apparently those numbers are basically made up:

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

Ouch!

[tufsu1]

^ I think the appropriate term would be "moron"

[RattlerGator]

Well, lets see. Maybe she won 250 of the 3,141 -- okay? That make baby feel all better?

Is the electoral college landslide made up? Is the stunning defeat of Hillary Clinton, even in the face of two establishment Republicans running as libertarians for the express purpose of defeating Trump and Trump alone, made up? Or Obama's CIA convincing a Mormon to run for the express reason of denying Trump a victory in Utah made up?

Look, the man took every shot from every direction -- and was the last one standing.

Ouch, indeed !!!

[JHAT76]

Well, lets see. Maybe she won 250 of the 3,141 -- okay? That make baby feel all better?

Is the electoral college landslide made up? Is the stunning defeat of Hillary Clinton, even in the face of two establishment Republicans running as libertarians for the express purpose of defeating Trump and Trump alone, made up? Or Obama's CIA convincing a Mormon to run for the express reason of denying Trump a victory in Utah made up?

Look, the man took every shot from every direction -- and was the last one standing.

Ouch, indeed !!!

Where did you get your info on the above bolded statement?

[vicupstate]

Well, lets see. Maybe she won 250 of the 3,141 -- okay? That make baby feel all better?

Is the electoral college landslide made up? Is the stunning defeat of Hillary Clinton, even in the face of two establishment Republicans running as libertarians for the express purpose of defeating Trump and Trump alone, made up? Or Obama's CIA convincing a Mormon to run for the express reason of denying Trump a victory in Utah made up?

Look, the man took every shot from every direction -- and was the last one standing.

Ouch, indeed !!!

Is the electoral college landslide made up?

I realize we are in a Post-truth era now, but yes it is made up.  306 EV is not anywhere close to a landslide. It is only 3 more than JFK got in one of the closest elections in modern times.  Obama won 332 and 365 EVs and no one claim that as a landslide.

[Adam White]

Well, lets see. Maybe she won 250 of the 3,141 -- okay? That make baby feel all better?

Is the electoral college landslide made up? Is the stunning defeat of Hillary Clinton, even in the face of two establishment Republicans running as libertarians for the express purpose of defeating Trump and Trump alone, made up? Or Obama's CIA convincing a Mormon to run for the express reason of denying Trump a victory in Utah made up?

Look, the man took every shot from every direction -- and was the last one standing.

Ouch, indeed !!!

Okay, so what the hell? I simply linked an article to show that the numbers you quoted on more than one occasion were wrong. And you call me a "baby" for it.

Anyway, I think you revised numbers are still wrong - I believe Clinton won over 400 counties. But I don't really understand your preoccupation with the counties anyway. And I really don't get the other stuff you have now introduced.