New life for Berkman II? Owners seeking Commercial CBD Rezone

Started by KenFSU, November 22, 2016, 11:03:33 AM

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FlaBoy

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September 28, 2017, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on September 28, 2017, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on September 28, 2017, 01:29:20 PM
The key would be the connectivity to the stadium because for larger conventions I am sure a pitch would be use of the stadium, amphitheater and IPF if Bold Events ran the convention business in town. Getting people from the convention center to the stadium would be the hang up. To get to the amphitheater from the old Courthouse is a .9 mile walk and 17 minutes according to google.

I'd almost think of this in the opposite way. With a convention center at the old Courthouse site, yes, there would be some difficulty in getting people from the convention center to the stadium for the 10% of events large enough to utilize all three venues. But, with a convention center at Met Park, you'd have a much bigger problem in getting people from the stadium to the downtown core for the other 90% of the more typical events.

To me, you run into the same connectivity problem either way.

I'd love to see some form of fixed transportation between the sports complex and old Courthouse site, but the more immediate answer might be the new pilot program that JTA is readying for autonomous vehicles. This corridor was specifically cited, along with Riverside, for the pilot program, and I imagine they could have it online in time for any new convention center.



And if we're talking conspiracy theory, in terms of a mixed-use component, the secretive Curry trip with Khan and Lamping to see the Cordish developments in St. Louis, Kansas City, and Baltimore, to me, also suggests a location somewhere near the old Courthouse/Annex as well. He released his draft budget in July, which included the demolition of those properties, and just days later, he went on an off-the-books cross-country tour with Iguana to tour those developments. He called back before the trip was even over to talk funding such a development.

We're YEARS away from being able to build anything on the Shipyards property. Why the rushed trip to all these different spots if we're talking Shipyards?

I agree that this is the better situation than building by the stadium. This should definitely be interesting. I really am hoping for some movement on this soon.

KenFSU

#123
May 08, 2018, 08:30:40 AM
Anyone heard anything new on Berkman II?

Curry made it sound like an announcement was imminent in late 2017.

Six months later, radio silence.

downtownbrown

#124
May 08, 2018, 03:15:37 PM
rumor was it was about to close at the end of last year. Lawyers have slowed the process.  No idea where it is now, but someone should be asking the mayor.

downtownbrown

#126
May 30, 2018, 11:40:47 AM
I'm ready when they are.  I hope the rumored buyer is accurate.

Tacachale

#127
May 30, 2018, 11:48:18 AM Last Edit: May 30, 2018, 11:49:59 AM by Tacachale
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

KenFSU

#128
May 30, 2018, 12:10:04 PM
Quote from: downtownbrown on May 30, 2018, 11:40:47 AM
I'm ready when they are.  I hope the rumored buyer is accurate.

You still hearing Marriott?

downtownbrown

#129
May 30, 2018, 01:06:18 PM
that's all I've ever heard.  Their Delta concept, which kind of makes sense.

KenFSU

#130
June 21, 2018, 01:29:50 PM
^You've got to think that Choate loses a bit of negotiating leverage when the mayor publicly says, "If you can't sell the property to Marriott, we're taking it by force."

Hope the deal closes by August as claimed, but unlike the Landing, I do agree with the mayor on this one. One way or another, we need to move on here.

QuoteCurry said the owner, Choate Construction Co., told his administration recently it expects to close soon on a deal for the site.

"We've made it very clear to them that if this deal doesn't close, the city will act," he said. "Whatever that looks like."

Curry declined to say what that action could be.

When asked if that meant condemning the structure or purchasing it directly from Choate, he said. "I think all options are on the table."

"The most important thing for your readers to understand is that it's not an option for that to sit like it has for another year," he said.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/mayor-currys-focus-for-redevelopment-the-northbank

Snaketoz

#131
June 21, 2018, 05:36:48 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on June 21, 2018, 01:29:50 PM
^You've got to think that Choate loses a bit of negotiating leverage when the mayor publicly says, "If you can't sell the property to Marriott, we're taking it by force."

Hope the deal closes by August as claimed, but unlike the Landing, I do agree with the mayor on this one. One way or another, we need to move on here.

QuoteCurry said the owner, Choate Construction Co., told his administration recently it expects to close soon on a deal for the site.

"We've made it very clear to them that if this deal doesn't close, the city will act," he said. "Whatever that looks like."

Curry declined to say what that action could be.

When asked if that meant condemning the structure or purchasing it directly from Choate, he said. "I think all options are on the table."

"The most important thing for your readers to understand is that it's not an option for that to sit like it has for another year," he said.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/mayor-currys-focus-for-redevelopment-the-northbank
Bingo!  Either you do it our way, or we'll use the taxpayers of Duval County's money to force your hand.  The city can afford the legal fees, and whomever has the deepest pockets wins. 
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

Rynjny

#132
July 17, 2018, 11:25:43 AM
Berkman 2 Will not be torn down. It will become hotel and entertainment complex. The property was sold yesterday and a developer will be announced soon. We could see the new hotel and other amenities within the next three years. Live report at noon. @wjxt4 https://twitter.com/wjxtjimpiggott/status/1019240462211846145/photo/1


KenFSU

#133
July 17, 2018, 11:48:58 AM Last Edit: July 17, 2018, 12:05:28 PM by Tacachale
Quote from: Rynjny on July 17, 2018, 11:25:43 AM
Berkman 2 Will not be torn down. It will become hotel and entertainment complex. The property was sold yesterday and a developer will be announced soon. We could see the new hotel and other amenities within the next three years. Live report at noon. @wjxt4 https://twitter.com/wjxtjimpiggott/status/1019240462211846145/photo/1

What a time to be alive.

Tacachale

#134
July 17, 2018, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on July 17, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
Quote from: Rynjny on July 17, 2018, 11:25:43 AM
Berkman 2 Will not be torn down. It will become hotel and entertainment complex. The property was sold yesterday and a developer will be announced soon. We could see the new hotel and other amenities within the next three years. Live report at noon. @wjxt4 https://twitter.com/wjxtjimpiggott/status/1019240462211846145/photo/1

What a time to be alive.

Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?
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