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The Case for Gary Johnson

Started by Metro Jacksonville, September 14, 2016, 03:00:03 AM

JHAT76

Quote from: finehoe on September 26, 2016, 03:03:32 PM
Quote from: JHAT76 on September 26, 2016, 03:00:39 PM
Finehoe instead linked to a (let's be honest) left leaning website.  Public Citizen was originally Ralph Nader correct?

And?  What is factually incorrect in my post?


OK I will post a second opinion on TPP.  What is factually incorrect in this positive review of ISDS? http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2016/05/straight-talk-on-the-isds-provisions-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership


coredumped

The Hillary campaign is reportedly spending$18 million to discredit Gary Johnson. Somebody's scared....
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Adam White

Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 08:43:58 AM
The Hillary campaign is reportedly spending$18 million to discredit Gary Johnson. Somebody's scared....

Yes... scared of Trump.

"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Adam White

Quote from: stephendare on September 30, 2016, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on September 30, 2016, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 08:43:58 AM
The Hillary campaign is reportedly spending$18 million to discredit Gary Johnson. Somebody's scared....

Yeah, scared of someone who doesnt know what Allepo is, can't name a single world leader he admires, thinks we should go back to the gold standard, and thinks that corporations should just be left unfettered to do whatever they want on the honor system.  Yeah, I am scared of someone who is every bit as dumb as Herman Caine, yet seems to be getting a pass by some, being taken seriously.  Scared for humanity, that is.

I honestly dont get the recent libertarian formula of all liberty no citizenship.

Or the massive blind spot in relation to how unregulated/under regulated capitalism is antithetical to democracy and liberty.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

finehoe

Why You Shouldn't Vote for Gary Johnson

...we have some bad news for Americans seeking a Trump-Clinton alternative: Johnson has a poor fiscal track record, only the faintest fidelity to Libertarian ideals and a facile grip on issues both foreign and domestic – helping explain why 99.1 percent of the electorate decided he shouldn't be president four years ago. No matter where you sit on the ideological spectrum, you're likely to find something deeply objectionable in Johnson's views.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/why-you-shouldnt-vote-for-libertarian-nominee-gary-johnson-w435712

coredumped

Quote from: Adam White on September 30, 2016, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 08:43:58 AM
The Hillary campaign is reportedly spending$18 million to discredit Gary Johnson. Somebody's scared....

Yes... scared of Trump.



Scared of trump but spending money on Gary?? Hmmm...

Trump never had a shot against the Clinton machine. The republicans missed a HUGE opportunity (again) by having a candidate un-electable. Really, the only person WORSE than Hillary is Trump.
Literally anyone but Trump could really beat Hillary. Hillary will win the election, no doubt, but it's mostly because of the hatred for trump, not because people like hillary.
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Adam White

Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: Adam White on September 30, 2016, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 08:43:58 AM
The Hillary campaign is reportedly spending$18 million to discredit Gary Johnson. Somebody's scared....

Yes... scared of Trump.



Scared of trump but spending money on Gary?? Hmmm...

Trump never had a shot against the Clinton machine. The republicans missed a HUGE opportunity (again) by having a candidate un-electable. Really, the only person WORSE than Hillary is Trump.
Literally anyone but Trump could really beat Hillary. Hillary will win the election, no doubt, but it's mostly because of the hatred for trump, not because people like hillary.

Yes, scared of Trump. His numbers have improved and, depending on the polls, the margin is only a couple of points. Clinton's campaign is smart to try to target voters who may be thinking of voting for third parties as every vote helps.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Bridges

Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 11:31:54 AM
Scared of trump but spending money on Gary?? Hmmm...

Trump never had a shot against the Clinton machine. The republicans missed a HUGE opportunity (again) by having a candidate un-electable. Really, the only person WORSE than Hillary is Trump.
Literally anyone but Trump could really beat Hillary. Hillary will win the election, no doubt, but it's mostly because of the hatred for trump, not because people like hillary.

I think you are highly underestimating Trump and his supporters. 
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

coredumped

Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on September 30, 2016, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 08:43:58 AM
The Hillary campaign is reportedly spending$18 million to discredit Gary Johnson. Somebody's scared....

Yeah, scared of someone who doesnt know what Allepo is, can't name a single world leader he admires, thinks we should go back to the gold standard, and thinks that corporations should just be left unfettered to do whatever they want on the honor system.  Yeah, I am scared of someone who is every bit as dumb as Herman Caine, yet seems to be getting a pass by some, being taken seriously.  Scared for humanity, that is.

Not my quote, I'm copying this from reddit but it's a good response to you being "scared" of someone who can't name a foreign city:

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Adam White

Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on September 30, 2016, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 08:43:58 AM
The Hillary campaign is reportedly spending$18 million to discredit Gary Johnson. Somebody's scared....

Yeah, scared of someone who doesnt know what Allepo is, can't name a single world leader he admires, thinks we should go back to the gold standard, and thinks that corporations should just be left unfettered to do whatever they want on the honor system.  Yeah, I am scared of someone who is every bit as dumb as Herman Caine, yet seems to be getting a pass by some, being taken seriously.  Scared for humanity, that is.

Not my quote, I'm copying this from reddit but it's a good response to you being "scared" of someone who can't name a foreign city:



Nothing disqualifies anyone from being President (except those under 35, not residents of the US for 14 years and not 'natural born citizens').
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

funwithteeth

"Doesn't look up to any foreign leader"

Oh, is that what happened there.

coredumped

Quote from: funwithteeth on September 30, 2016, 01:20:01 PM
"Doesn't look up to any foreign leader"

Oh, is that what happened there.

So is forgetting/not knowing something worse than lying & giving perjured testimony? (Assuming you're a Hillary fan)

Politics really makes people irrational...
Jags season ticket holder.

Adam White

Quote from: coredumped on September 30, 2016, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: funwithteeth on September 30, 2016, 01:20:01 PM
"Doesn't look up to any foreign leader"

Oh, is that what happened there.

So is forgetting/not knowing something worse than lying & giving perjured testimony? (Assuming you're a Hillary fan)

Politics really makes people irrational...

I don't understand how criticism of one candidate means support for another. It seems that is the one constant throughout this election. Surely we can criticise Johnson without it having to be a case of, "so is forgetting/not knowing something worse than lying...."
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

funwithteeth

I'm a fan of voting against the orange-skinned, bloviating, racist, misogynist demagogue. It's pretty easy to understand, or so I would think. It's just the hate-filled trashbag running as a Republican has become so normalized by the supposedly liberal media that there are people who honestly think he's no different than the person running as a Democrat.