Bondi calls nightclub 'a war zone' & blames Radical Islam

[The_Choose_1]

Florida attorney general Pam Bondi said the Nightclub looked like a war zone and called the massacre an act of radical Islam. Key words that come from the Right Wing Nut Republicans 'Radical Islam!' On Sunday I never saw Pam at any of the Audio mikes? Here is the rest of her take on the killings. http://www.news4jax.com/news/bondi-calls-nightclub-a-war-zone

[The_Choose_1]

Florida attorney general Pam Bondi said the Nightclub looked like a war zone and called the massacre an act of radical Islam. Key words that come from the Right Wing Nut Republicans 'Radical Islam!' On Sunday I never saw Pam at any of the Audio mikes? Here is the rest of her take on the killings. http://www.news4jax.com/news/bondi-calls-nightclub-a-war-zone

I don't really have a problem with the term "radical Islam", it distinguishes it from the many, and majority, of Muslims who are peace loving and normal people; just like I dont have a problem with "fundamentalist/radical Christian" to distinguish the same.

I really do not get why many liberals (and I include myself as a liberal) have such a hard time decrying Islam while they protest the very same attitudes and beliefs of Christians-- all fundamentalist religions are a problem, not just white male Christianity.  I have no problem acknowledging that we should let refugees from Syria into our country while also saying that there is a very poisonous strain of Islam that wants war and death. And by virtue of the size of Islam across the world, that strain includes a lot of people.

In the next set of killings that will come. From workplace killings to spouse killings etc. Lets find out the killers religion and say that they were part of the Radical Baptist, Radical Methodist, Radical Jewish, Radical whatever just to be fair.

[Adam White]

Florida attorney general Pam Bondi said the Nightclub looked like a war zone and called the massacre an act of radical Islam. Key words that come from the Right Wing Nut Republicans 'Radical Islam!' On Sunday I never saw Pam at any of the Audio mikes? Here is the rest of her take on the killings. http://www.news4jax.com/news/bondi-calls-nightclub-a-war-zone

I don't really have a problem with the term "radical Islam", it distinguishes it from the many, and majority, of Muslims who are peace loving and normal people; just like I dont have a problem with "fundamentalist/radical Christian" to distinguish the same.

I really do not get why many liberals (and I include myself as a liberal) have such a hard time decrying Islam while they protest the very same attitudes and beliefs of Christians-- all fundamentalist religions are a problem, not just white male Christianity.  I have no problem acknowledging that we should let refugees from Syria into our country while also saying that there is a very poisonous strain of Islam that wants war and death. And by virtue of the size of Islam across the world, that strain includes a lot of people.

I've no issue with radical islam being highlighted if it is the reason for an attack.

What I take issue with is when attacks are used as a way to drag out the usual islamophobic propaganda.

[The_Choose_1]

Florida attorney general Pam Bondi said the Nightclub looked like a war zone and called the massacre an act of radical Islam. Key words that come from the Right Wing Nut Republicans 'Radical Islam!' On Sunday I never saw Pam at any of the Audio mikes? Here is the rest of her take on the killings. http://www.news4jax.com/news/bondi-calls-nightclub-a-war-zone

I don't really have a problem with the term "radical Islam", it distinguishes it from the many, and majority, of Muslims who are peace loving and normal people; just like I dont have a problem with "fundamentalist/radical Christian" to distinguish the same.

I really do not get why many liberals (and I include myself as a liberal) have such a hard time decrying Islam while they protest the very same attitudes and beliefs of Christians-- all fundamentalist religions are a problem, not just white male Christianity.  I have no problem acknowledging that we should let refugees from Syria into our country while also saying that there is a very poisonous strain of Islam that wants war and death. And by virtue of the size of Islam across the world, that strain includes a lot of people.

I've no issue with radical islam being highlighted if it is the reason for an attack.

What I take issue with is when attacks are used as a way to drag out the usual islamophobic propaganda.

The reason Pam Bondi calls it Radical Islam, Donald Trump and others in the Right Wing Nut Club call it this.

[Adam White]

In the next set of killings that will come. From workplace killings to spouse killings etc. Lets find out the killers religion and say that they were part of the Radical Baptist, Radical Methodist, Radical Jewish, Radical whatever just to be fair.

  It's absolutely unbelievable that everyone is tip-toeing around the fact that there is a (very?) large segment of a religion that seeks to do violence in the name of said religion. This guy, and others, specifically killed people due to his/their religious beliefs. 

I don't think it's a very large segment of islam. It might be a large number, but as a percentage of total muslims (over a billion people), it's likely very small.

[The_Choose_1]

In the next set of killings that will come. From workplace killings to spouse killings etc. Lets find out the killers religion and say that they were part of the Radical Baptist, Radical Methodist, Radical Jewish, Radical whatever just to be fair.

If someone kills a bunch of people because of his radical Christian beliefs, then he absolutely should be called an extremist or radical Christian.  That was my whole point. 

In what I am seeing on blogs and websites (including here), I really understand why people listen to Trump on this the way they do.  It's absolutely unbelievable that everyone is tip-toeing around the fact that there is a (very?) large segment of a religion that seeks to do violence in the name of said religion. This guy, and others, specifically killed people due to his/their religious beliefs.  We should be calling this shit out-- REGARDLESS of the religion, instead of bending over backwards to try and discount/ignore the fact that it was religiously motivated.

He was born in "AMERICA" so call him an American Muslim if you want to be PC about it.

[finehoe]

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

[Adam White]

I don't think it's a very large segment of islam. It might be a large number, but as a percentage of total muslims (over a billion people), it's likely very small.

Oh, yes. Definitely agreed.  That is a misstatement on my part and I was trying to convey what you said.  Thank you for pointing that out.

I don't have a problem with peaceful, tolerant Muslims, just like I don't have a problem with peaceful, tolerant Christians.  I just find it unbelievable that SO many liberals I know love to bash Christianity and then refuse to acknowledge the same behavior and beliefs of the extremist wing of Islam, just because it might mean that --GASP!-- they share an opinion with Republicans.

I think another reason might be borne out of concern about vilifying a minority group. People hesitate because the narrative so quickly can be hijacked and turned into muslim-bashing. Same thing with immigration - it's so hard to critique immigration policies because people with an agenda tend to hijack the conversation.

[The_Choose_1]

I don't think it's a very large segment of islam. It might be a large number, but as a percentage of total muslims (over a billion people), it's likely very small.

Oh, yes. Definitely agreed.  That is a misstatement on my part and I was trying to convey what you said.  Thank you for pointing that out.

I don't have a problem with peaceful, tolerant Muslims, just like I don't have a problem with peaceful, tolerant Christians.  I just find it unbelievable that SO many liberals I know love to bash Christianity and then refuse to acknowledge the same behavior and beliefs of the extremist wing of Islam, just because it might mean that --GASP!-- they share an opinion with Republicans.

This guy was a Lone Wolf at this point. And so far killed 49 people the 50th person counted on Sunday was the killer himself. Who died in a hail of bullets.

[JeffreyS]

Do any of the other labels even matter when his own father calls him mentally disturbed?

[CoastalJax]

More immediately, homophobia and mental illness were to blame. "Radical Islam" and pathetic gun laws didn't help.

[Ivegotasecret]

What were John Lennon's words? Imagine no religion???

[fsquid]

What were John Lennon's words? Imagine no religion???

Don't shoot?

[fsquid]

Do any of the other labels even matter when his own father calls him mentally disturbed?

You got the gun and gay thing for the left and the Islam thing for the right.  Everyone gets to rub one out politically

[finehoe]

Anderson Cooper Grills Woman Who Led Charge Against Gay Marriage In Florida

CNN's Anderson Cooper grilled Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi on Tuesday, saying many in the LGBT community think she's "a hypocrite."

After a shooter killed 49 people and injured 53 others at a gay nightclub in Orlando Sunday, Bondi said people who attacked the LGBT community would be punished.

"We are making it clear that anyone who attacks our LGBT community, anyone who attacks anyone will be gone after to the fullest extent of the law," Bondi said Sunday.

Bondi led the fight against legalizing same-sex marriage in Florida, arguing it would "impose significant public harm" in the Sunshine State. The battle over gay marriage cost Florida taxpayers almost $500,000, according to the Tampa Bay Times.

"You've basically gone after people, said in court that gay people, simply by fighting for marriage equality, were trying to do harm to the people of Florida," Cooper told her. "Do you really think you're a champion of the gay community?"

http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anderson-cooper-pam-bondi_us_57604bb1e4b0e4fe5143e8b8?