Riot In Riverside! July 4th 2008! riot brings mayhem.

fpj · July 07, 2008, 01:02:05 PM

This from the police logs of the evening of July 4th...

Some shorthand:

40 - civil disorder/riot/crowd
16 - traffic obstruction/hazard
33 - shots fired
77 - situation under control
18 - someone has been shot
61 - fight
pl - parking lot
air3 - the helicopter
56 - juveniles
97 - throwing fireworks

so here is it....

22:03:51 - calling adv large group poss 100-200 people going to start a sig 40, 16
22:03:52 - adv in all of 5 points
22:03:52 - overrode priority 4 with 3, priority of event = 3
22:26:30 - 33s in area
22:27:55 - illuminate the shell station
22:29:58 - still casing 1000 blk of park
22:30:33 - t77 no sig 18 victim...there is an individual that is being 33d at
22:30:45 - most of the crowd is to the east by the shell station
22:31:07 - also coming from the south....possible 61 in the shell pl
22:31:32 - need units to the south per air3
22:32:37 - park is clear...jus tthe pl of the shell
22:32:57 - 61 at the pl, need units on the northside
22:34:12 - need more units...still 33ing
22:36:42 - wendys is clear...indvs still at shell
22:37:50 - still 33s in the area...req more units
22:40:17 - indvs circling thge block and not leaving
22:41:59 - now moving twards post and margaret moving east
22:42:14 - need all veh traffic stopped
22:42:23 - need a unit at post margaret
22:43:52 - j162 at the southend
22:58:24 - k for jp/air3
23:01:45 - starting to group up just east of the shell again
23:06:04 - 400 sig 56s inside the club...club will let out at 2315
23:12:51 - club is shutting down now ....expecting a very large crowd
23:16:29 - 61 at the wendys per 6933
23:16:57 - 61 in the st southside of five points
23:17:05 - coming north towards the shell
23:17:30 - large group heading towards the wendys
23:17:51 - one male being chased by a group
23:18:05 - north thru the alley
23:18:29 - victim red shirt
23:18:39 - 148 t97
23:18:52 - to the left of the red brick house
23:20:51 - large group heading towards the intersection of five points
23:22:15 - 61ing just north of the intersection..some headed north twards the shel
23:23:52 - headed tp the otherside of derby house
23:24:33 - 33ing again
23:26:09 - need units margre/post..and sev units to the light at the inter
23:26:56 - 5 points calming down, need units to stay t97
23:27:59 - 61 in front of derby house
23:31:09 - 33 at 1000 park
23:31:29 - k717
23:33:08 - 33s came from park/oak
23:33:11 - dispo: z for jp/60843
23:34:43 - 33s at post/oak, no sig 18, everyone fled
23:35:01 - majority of indvs are just east of shell
23:35:07 - adv by apt 804 bm wht shrt blk shorts was on side of building 08
23:35:07 - hiding by a tree, cmp adv susp is on foot on may str
23:35:25 - adv at may/post officer need to go east 08
23:35:54 - adv susp running on may st
23:36:57 - groupig up just east of shell
23:43:22 - no units should be let thru
and then over the next 30 minutes or so 28 officers signed out of the area with one amusing comment in the midst:
00:19:15 - wow

If I missed any signals, here is a list:

13 Suspicious Car Or Person 64 Barking Dog
14 Malicious Mischief Or Vandalism 65 Rape
15 Special Detail 66 Molesting
16 Traffic Obstruction Or Hazard 67 Child Cruelty
17 Sick Person Or Person Down 68 Con Game Or Film Flam
18 One Shot 69 Contributing To Deling
19 Animal Bite Investigation Depend child
20 Powler Or Peeping Tom 70 Counterfelt
21 Breaking And Entering 71 Animal Cruelty
22 Family Or Domestic Disturbance 72 Dangerous Excavation
23 Hold Up 73 Drug Or Narcotic
24 Investigate Invesigation
25 Fire Or Explosion 74 Extortion
26 Cardiac/Drowning/Asphyxiation 75 Sex Offence, Non-Rape,
27 Insane Peron Prostitution
28 Deliver Message To... 76 Assist Other Agency
29 Wires Down 77 Situation Under Control
30 Abduction 78 False Personation
31 Property Check/Dark Report 79 Obsene Threats Or Phone Call
32 Burglar Or Fire Alarm 80 Vice Investigation, Non-Drug
33 Dischargeing Firearms Matter
34 Officer Calling For HELP! 81 Hawkins, Door To Door
35 Officer Requests Assistance 82 Shoplifter
36 Meet An Officer 83 Ticket Scalping
37 Petting Party 84 Strike Or Labor Union
38 Traffic Assignment Activity
39 Water Or Boat Accident 85 Carrying Concealed Weapon
40 Civil Disorder/Riot/Crowd 86 Lost Property
41 Arson 87 Damaged Property
42 Worthless Check Control Burn 88 Assault
43 Hitchhiker We Need 89 Illegal Burning
44 Abortion, Permission To Talk 90 Fireworks
45 Gas Leak 91 View Of Roadway Is
46 Aircraft Obstructed
47 Juveniles Playing In The Street 92 Sidewalk Obstruction
Railroad Accident 93 Blood Run
48 Industrial Or Construction Accident 94 Information
49 Report To....Hospital 95 Fraud Investigation
50 Found Or Abandoned Property 96 Assist Motorist
51 Follow-Up Investigation 97 Throwing Incendiaries Or
52 Garbage Investigation Fireworks
53 Someone Hurt Or Injured 98 Throwing Missiles
54 Illegally Parked Vehicle 99 UFO Investigation
55 Holding One 10-99 Request Control Number
56 Juvenile Complaint
57 Person Calling For Help CODES:
58 Bomb Investigation Or Threat Alpha - Unable to locate complainant/
59 Vehicle Maintenance verify incident
60 Suicide Or Suicide Attempt Bravo - Assist motorist/traffic
61 Fight In Progress India - Transported victim or witness
62 Cutting Hotel - Advised to re-contact if
63 Loud Distrubance further trouble
Kilo - Assisted (Signal 35) other
officer or agency

David · July 07, 2008, 01:16:47 PM

Is it possible fireworks were mistaken for gunfire?

Driven1 · July 07, 2008, 01:18:12 PM

fpj, AWESOME POST. thank you for that factual information. this is the kind of stuff that we can rely on!!

Eazy E · July 07, 2008, 01:19:12 PM

Okay, well, from firsthand accounts: there was tear gas, 50/50 on shootings. While I received several phone calls about the incident on Friday night, when I showed up Saturday, there was nothing indicating a large fight, or even a riot, had occurred: no property damage, no trash in the streets, nothing.

I would, in fact, though it pains my liberal conscious, put the blame squarely on the people attending this event. Even at 8 o'clock, they were getting out of control. One 5 Points regular went to move his car, parked right in front of the line, and several 15 year olds began harassing him, calling him "whitey" and saying they were going to "shoot his punk ass". Unfortunately, in Jacksonville at this time, we have a demographic that respects nothing but violence and money, and that has no parental oversight or control being exercised-- it's the same crap that made me quit teaching. I would chalk this fight/riot up to our city's inability to instill in poor kids that violence isn't the answer and money isn't the be-all end-all of everything. And, unfortunately, the kind of rap that this is-- the worst, crappiest, most unintelligent, and uncreative kind-- only fuels this by making every song about cars, drugs, violence and hoes. A Tribe Called Quest those guys ain't.

Eazy E · July 07, 2008, 01:20:13 PM

Quote from: Eazy E on July 07, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
Okay, well, from firsthand accounts: there was tear gas, 50/50 on shootings. While I received several phone calls about the incident on Friday night, when I showed up Saturday, there was nothing indicating a large fight, or even a riot, had occurred: no property damage, no trash in the streets, nothing.

I would, in fact, though it pains my liberal conscious, put the blame squarely on the people attending this event. Even at 8 o'clock, they were getting out of control. One 5 Points regular went to move his car, parked right in front of the line, and several 15 year olds began harassing him, calling him "whitey" and saying they were going to "shoot his punk ass". Unfortunately, in Jacksonville at this time, we have a demographic that respects nothing but violence and money, and that has no parental oversight or control being exercised-- it's the same crap that made me quit teaching. I would chalk this fight/riot up to our city's inability to instill in poor kids that violence isn't the answer and money isn't the be-all end-all of everything. And, unfortunately, the kind of rap that this is-- the worst, crappiest, most unintelligent, and uncreative kind-- only fuels this by making every song about cars, drugs, violence and hoes. A Tribe Called Quest those guys ain't.

*yeah, that would be conscience, not conscious

Driven1 · July 07, 2008, 01:20:55 PM

Quote from: Eazy E on July 07, 2008, 01:19:12 PM

I would, in fact, though it pains my liberal conscious, put the blame squarely on the people attending this event. Even at 8 o'clock, they were getting out of control. One 5 Points regular went to move his car, parked right in front of the line, and several 15 year olds began harassing him, calling him "whitey" and saying they were going to "shoot his punk ass".

well, at least we now know there weren't any racist motivations behind the angry mob of club-goers.

getintoit · July 07, 2008, 01:26:24 PM

Quote from: fpj on July 07, 2008, 01:02:05 PM
This from the police logs of the evening of July 4th...

Some shorthand:

40 - civil disorder/riot/crowd
16 - traffic obstruction/hazard
33 - shots fired
77 - situation under control
18 - someone has been shot
61 - fight
pl - parking lot
air3 - the helicopter
56 - juveniles
97 - throwing fireworks

so here is it....

22:03:51 - calling adv large group poss 100-200 people going to start a sig 40, 16
22:03:52 - adv in all of 5 points
22:03:52 - overrode priority 4 with 3, priority of event = 3
22:26:30 - 33s in area
22:27:55 - illuminate the shell station
22:29:58 - still casing 1000 blk of park
22:30:33 - t77 no sig 18 victim...there is an individual that is being 33d at
22:30:45 - most of the crowd is to the east by the shell station
22:31:07 - also coming from the south....possible 61 in the shell pl
22:31:32 - need units to the south per air3
22:32:37 - park is clear...jus tthe pl of the shell
22:32:57 - 61 at the pl, need units on the northside
22:34:12 - need more units...still 33ing
22:36:42 - wendys is clear...indvs still at shell
22:37:50 - still 33s in the area...req more units
22:40:17 - indvs circling thge block and not leaving
22:41:59 - now moving twards post and margaret moving east
22:42:14 - need all veh traffic stopped
22:42:23 - need a unit at post margaret
22:43:52 - j162 at the southend
22:58:24 - k for jp/air3
23:01:45 - starting to group up just east of the shell again
23:06:04 - 400 sig 56s inside the club...club will let out at 2315
23:12:51 - club is shutting down now ....expecting a very large crowd
23:16:29 - 61 at the wendys per 6933
23:16:57 - 61 in the st southside of five points
23:17:05 - coming north towards the shell
23:17:30 - large group heading towards the wendys
23:17:51 - one male being chased by a group
23:18:05 - north thru the alley
23:18:29 - victim red shirt
23:18:39 - 148 t97
23:18:52 - to the left of the red brick house
23:20:51 - large group heading towards the intersection of five points
23:22:15 - 61ing just north of the intersection..some headed north twards the shel
23:23:52 - headed tp the otherside of derby house
23:24:33 - 33ing again
23:26:09 - need units margre/post..and sev units to the light at the inter
23:26:56 - 5 points calming down, need units to stay t97
23:27:59 - 61 in front of derby house
23:31:09 - 33 at 1000 park
23:31:29 - k717
23:33:08 - 33s came from park/oak
23:33:11 - dispo: z for jp/60843
23:34:43 - 33s at post/oak, no sig 18, everyone fled
23:35:01 - majority of indvs are just east of shell
23:35:07 - adv by apt 804 bm wht shrt blk shorts was on side of building 08
23:35:07 - hiding by a tree, cmp adv susp is on foot on may str
23:35:25 - adv at may/post officer need to go east 08
23:35:54 - adv susp running on may st
23:36:57 - groupig up just east of shell
23:43:22 - no units should be let thru
and then over the next 30 minutes or so 28 officers signed out of the area with one amusing comment in the midst:
00:19:15 - wow

If I missed any signals, here is a list:

13 Suspicious Car Or Person 64 Barking Dog
14 Malicious Mischief Or Vandalism 65 Rape
15 Special Detail 66 Molesting
16 Traffic Obstruction Or Hazard 67 Child Cruelty
17 Sick Person Or Person Down 68 Con Game Or Film Flam
18 One Shot 69 Contributing To Deling
19 Animal Bite Investigation Depend child
20 Powler Or Peeping Tom 70 Counterfelt
21 Breaking And Entering 71 Animal Cruelty
22 Family Or Domestic Disturbance 72 Dangerous Excavation
23 Hold Up 73 Drug Or Narcotic
24 Investigate Invesigation
25 Fire Or Explosion 74 Extortion
26 Cardiac/Drowning/Asphyxiation 75 Sex Offence, Non-Rape,
27 Insane Peron Prostitution
28 Deliver Message To... 76 Assist Other Agency
29 Wires Down 77 Situation Under Control
30 Abduction 78 False Personation
31 Property Check/Dark Report 79 Obsene Threats Or Phone Call
32 Burglar Or Fire Alarm 80 Vice Investigation, Non-Drug
33 Dischargeing Firearms Matter
34 Officer Calling For HELP! 81 Hawkins, Door To Door
35 Officer Requests Assistance 82 Shoplifter
36 Meet An Officer 83 Ticket Scalping
37 Petting Party 84 Strike Or Labor Union
38 Traffic Assignment Activity
39 Water Or Boat Accident 85 Carrying Concealed Weapon
40 Civil Disorder/Riot/Crowd 86 Lost Property
41 Arson 87 Damaged Property
42 Worthless Check Control Burn 88 Assault
43 Hitchhiker We Need 89 Illegal Burning
44 Abortion, Permission To Talk 90 Fireworks
45 Gas Leak 91 View Of Roadway Is
46 Aircraft Obstructed
47 Juveniles Playing In The Street 92 Sidewalk Obstruction
Railroad Accident 93 Blood Run
48 Industrial Or Construction Accident 94 Information
49 Report To....Hospital 95 Fraud Investigation
50 Found Or Abandoned Property 96 Assist Motorist
51 Follow-Up Investigation 97 Throwing Incendiaries Or
52 Garbage Investigation Fireworks
53 Someone Hurt Or Injured 98 Throwing Missiles
54 Illegally Parked Vehicle 99 UFO Investigation
55 Holding One 10-99 Request Control Number
56 Juvenile Complaint
57 Person Calling For Help CODES:
58 Bomb Investigation Or Threat Alpha - Unable to locate complainant/
59 Vehicle Maintenance verify incident
60 Suicide Or Suicide Attempt Bravo - Assist motorist/traffic
61 Fight In Progress India - Transported victim or witness
62 Cutting Hotel - Advised to re-contact if
63 Loud Distrubance further trouble
Kilo - Assisted (Signal 35) other
officer or agency

where did you find this?

Driven1 · July 07, 2008, 01:29:06 PM

Quote from: stephendare on July 07, 2008, 01:25:47 PM

Notnow, man if I implied that the cops in any way over reacted, let me take that back.

yes, originally you had said that this all started because the cops thought the club-goers were getting to be too many out too close to the street (or something to the effect) and that it was actually the cops' fault that all this happened. but (fortuantely) that post appears to be edited now.

Driven1 · July 07, 2008, 01:29:33 PM

Quote from: getintoit on July 07, 2008, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: fpj on July 07, 2008, 01:02:05 PM
This from the police logs of the evening of July 4th...

Some shorthand:

40 - civil disorder/riot/crowd
16 - traffic obstruction/hazard
33 - shots fired
77 - situation under control
18 - someone has been shot
61 - fight
pl - parking lot
air3 - the helicopter
56 - juveniles
97 - throwing fireworks

so here is it....

22:03:51 - calling adv large group poss 100-200 people going to start a sig 40, 16
22:03:52 - adv in all of 5 points
22:03:52 - overrode priority 4 with 3, priority of event = 3
22:26:30 - 33s in area
22:27:55 - illuminate the shell station
22:29:58 - still casing 1000 blk of park
22:30:33 - t77 no sig 18 victim...there is an individual that is being 33d at
22:30:45 - most of the crowd is to the east by the shell station
22:31:07 - also coming from the south....possible 61 in the shell pl
22:31:32 - need units to the south per air3
22:32:37 - park is clear...jus tthe pl of the shell
22:32:57 - 61 at the pl, need units on the northside
22:34:12 - need more units...still 33ing
22:36:42 - wendys is clear...indvs still at shell
22:37:50 - still 33s in the area...req more units
22:40:17 - indvs circling thge block and not leaving
22:41:59 - now moving twards post and margaret moving east
22:42:14 - need all veh traffic stopped
22:42:23 - need a unit at post margaret
22:43:52 - j162 at the southend
22:58:24 - k for jp/air3
23:01:45 - starting to group up just east of the shell again
23:06:04 - 400 sig 56s inside the club...club will let out at 2315
23:12:51 - club is shutting down now ....expecting a very large crowd
23:16:29 - 61 at the wendys per 6933
23:16:57 - 61 in the st southside of five points
23:17:05 - coming north towards the shell
23:17:30 - large group heading towards the wendys
23:17:51 - one male being chased by a group
23:18:05 - north thru the alley
23:18:29 - victim red shirt
23:18:39 - 148 t97
23:18:52 - to the left of the red brick house
23:20:51 - large group heading towards the intersection of five points
23:22:15 - 61ing just north of the intersection..some headed north twards the shel
23:23:52 - headed tp the otherside of derby house
23:24:33 - 33ing again
23:26:09 - need units margre/post..and sev units to the light at the inter
23:26:56 - 5 points calming down, need units to stay t97
23:27:59 - 61 in front of derby house
23:31:09 - 33 at 1000 park
23:31:29 - k717
23:33:08 - 33s came from park/oak
23:33:11 - dispo: z for jp/60843
23:34:43 - 33s at post/oak, no sig 18, everyone fled
23:35:01 - majority of indvs are just east of shell
23:35:07 - adv by apt 804 bm wht shrt blk shorts was on side of building 08
23:35:07 - hiding by a tree, cmp adv susp is on foot on may str
23:35:25 - adv at may/post officer need to go east 08
23:35:54 - adv susp running on may st
23:36:57 - groupig up just east of shell
23:43:22 - no units should be let thru
and then over the next 30 minutes or so 28 officers signed out of the area with one amusing comment in the midst:
00:19:15 - wow

If I missed any signals, here is a list:

13 Suspicious Car Or Person 64 Barking Dog
14 Malicious Mischief Or Vandalism 65 Rape
15 Special Detail 66 Molesting
16 Traffic Obstruction Or Hazard 67 Child Cruelty
17 Sick Person Or Person Down 68 Con Game Or Film Flam
18 One Shot 69 Contributing To Deling
19 Animal Bite Investigation Depend child
20 Powler Or Peeping Tom 70 Counterfelt
21 Breaking And Entering 71 Animal Cruelty
22 Family Or Domestic Disturbance 72 Dangerous Excavation
23 Hold Up 73 Drug Or Narcotic
24 Investigate Invesigation
25 Fire Or Explosion 74 Extortion
26 Cardiac/Drowning/Asphyxiation 75 Sex Offence, Non-Rape,
27 Insane Peron Prostitution
28 Deliver Message To... 76 Assist Other Agency
29 Wires Down 77 Situation Under Control
30 Abduction 78 False Personation
31 Property Check/Dark Report 79 Obsene Threats Or Phone Call
32 Burglar Or Fire Alarm 80 Vice Investigation, Non-Drug
33 Dischargeing Firearms Matter
34 Officer Calling For HELP! 81 Hawkins, Door To Door
35 Officer Requests Assistance 82 Shoplifter
36 Meet An Officer 83 Ticket Scalping
37 Petting Party 84 Strike Or Labor Union
38 Traffic Assignment Activity
39 Water Or Boat Accident 85 Carrying Concealed Weapon
40 Civil Disorder/Riot/Crowd 86 Lost Property
41 Arson 87 Damaged Property
42 Worthless Check Control Burn 88 Assault
43 Hitchhiker We Need 89 Illegal Burning
44 Abortion, Permission To Talk 90 Fireworks
45 Gas Leak 91 View Of Roadway Is
46 Aircraft Obstructed
47 Juveniles Playing In The Street 92 Sidewalk Obstruction
Railroad Accident 93 Blood Run
48 Industrial Or Construction Accident 94 Information
49 Report To....Hospital 95 Fraud Investigation
50 Found Or Abandoned Property 96 Assist Motorist
51 Follow-Up Investigation 97 Throwing Incendiaries Or
52 Garbage Investigation Fireworks
53 Someone Hurt Or Injured 98 Throwing Missiles
54 Illegally Parked Vehicle 99 UFO Investigation
55 Holding One 10-99 Request Control Number
56 Juvenile Complaint
57 Person Calling For Help CODES:
58 Bomb Investigation Or Threat Alpha - Unable to locate complainant/
59 Vehicle Maintenance verify incident
60 Suicide Or Suicide Attempt Bravo - Assist motorist/traffic
61 Fight In Progress India - Transported victim or witness
62 Cutting Hotel - Advised to re-contact if
63 Loud Distrubance further trouble
Kilo - Assisted (Signal 35) other
officer or agency

where did you find this?

i would like to know too.

Eazy E · July 07, 2008, 01:34:33 PM

Quote from: stephendare on July 07, 2008, 01:25:47 PM
Easy,

Did anyone actually see the band?

I still cant get over the mayhem level of the report. Guys being chased by gangs of people shootings throughout the night, etc.

Apparently, those with tickets were inside watching the performance while most of this was going on.
And, it should be noted, the guy being chased down the street was, most likely, one of the kids there to see the show, being chased by others there to see the show. It was NOT some person who came out to First Fridays and was set upon by these thugs.

Unfortunately, I shudder for what this portends for our future. Again, it pains my liberal conscience to admit that this situation really makes me reconsider my personal policy against owning a firearm.

Driven1 · July 07, 2008, 01:39:24 PM

Quote from: stephendare on July 07, 2008, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Driven1 on July 07, 2008, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: stephendare on July 07, 2008, 01:25:47 PM

Notnow, man if I implied that the cops in any way over reacted, let me take that back.

yes, originally you had said that this all started because the cops thought the club-goers were getting to be too many out too close to the street (or something to the effect) and that it was actually the cops' fault that all this happened. but (fortuantely) that post appears to be edited now.

dude. why lie.

You clearly know nothing at all about this subject, and just need some attention.

dude. this is not a lie. other people saw it i'm sure. there is no need to argue. keep it on topic.

Driven1 · July 07, 2008, 01:43:12 PM

again, as you try to personally attack, you only show your true character.

fpj - how did you get that police log? can we get them publicly? if so, why didn't we do that before??

Driven1 · July 07, 2008, 01:47:14 PM

Quote from: Eazy E on July 07, 2008, 01:34:33 PM
Unfortunately, I shudder for what this portends for our future. Again, it pains my liberal conscience to admit that this situation really makes me reconsider my personal policy against owning a firearm.

Eazy E - you are to be applauded for having the common sense and open mind to re-think your position here though.

Eazy E · July 07, 2008, 01:53:08 PM

Quote from: Driven1 on July 07, 2008, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: Eazy E on July 07, 2008, 01:34:33 PM
Unfortunately, I shudder for what this portends for our future. Again, it pains my liberal conscience to admit that this situation really makes me reconsider my personal policy against owning a firearm.

Eazy E - you are to be applauded for having the common sense and open mind to re-think your position here though.

I am almost 100% positive that this was not affiliated in any way with Cool Runnings/Kool Runnings.
I wish i wasn't considering a gun, but Stephen, this is NOT to be chalked up the promoters beyond them hosting an event in an area that is not suited for such an event. This is to be chalked up to the idiot teenagers and 20 somethings in JAx who think the proper response to any slight or minor aggrevation is to shoot someone; this is to be chalked up to a failing public school system that creates predtaory, thugged-out drug dealers who can't read; this is to be chalked up to those same predatory, thugged-out, illiterate drug dealares who have multiple children and don't take care of any of them, even though they didn;t have the financial or emotional ability to support the first one, let alone the enxt one, two, three, or four of them. This is to be chalked up to Jacksonville's future: people too stupid and too violent to realize they are too stupid and too violent.

I am as liberal as anyone on this site, yet I feel that a segment of the population is forcing me to become conservative on so many issues.

fpj · July 07, 2008, 01:54:09 PM

Quote from: Driven1 on July 07, 2008, 01:43:12 PM

fpj - how did you get that police log? can we get them publicly? if so, why didn't we do that before??

Police logs are public records. Anyone can get them at the PMB or any substation by just walking in and asking for them. They charged me $3.00 for the transcript and $.30 for the incident report (#644442 if anyone is interested in getting their own copy). I did that first thing this morning since I figured since it was a holiday weekend they would be difficult to get any earlier than that.