Gov. Rick Scott Scolded at Gainesville Starbucks

[Tacachale]

This is news?

Yes, it is. If it was difficult for you to ask, remember that there is no such thing as a stupid question. If you need help identifying anything else as news, post a link and we'll help you categorize.

As a Metro Jacksonville headline writer, I'd have thought you'd be familiar with leading questions. My comment is best considered in the spirit of Betteridge's Law: the actual answer is no, it's not news. It's a cell phone video of a relatively common occurrence.

Oh, thanks for the explanation. You're criticising the way the headline is written. Let me try again..

"Did Someone Yell at Rick Scott in a Gainesville Starbucks about Cuts to Medicaid?"

That doesn't follow the rule, though. The answer is yes. I'll figure it out eventually.

AND....

it's relatively common for Rick Scott to be yelled at in Public? Can you post a link to more videos?

I think it's pretty clear that my criticism is that something this silly and mundane was posted like it's news. But whatever gets you clicks.

[ben says]

Manners? Who gives a shit about manners? Being respectful to POTUS, I get...but Scott is a literal monster (physically and politically). Fuck that guy.

This girl is my hero.

[TheCat]

This is news?

Yes, it is. If it was difficult for you to ask, remember that there is no such thing as a stupid question. If you need help identifying anything else as news, post a link and we'll help you categorize.

As a Metro Jacksonville headline writer, I'd have thought you'd be familiar with leading questions. My comment is best considered in the spirit of Betteridge's Law: the actual answer is no, it's not news. It's a cell phone video of a relatively common occurrence.

Oh, thanks for the explanation. You're criticising the way the headline is written. Let me try again..

"Did Someone Yell at Rick Scott in a Gainesville Starbucks about Cuts to Medicaid?"

That doesn't follow the rule, though. The answer is yes. I'll figure it out eventually.

AND....

it's relatively common for Rick Scott to be yelled at in Public? Can you post a link to more videos?

I think it's pretty clear that my criticism is that something this silly and mundane was posted like it's news. But whatever gets you clicks.

Yes, it was very clear but apparently my fatuous responses were not.

[TheCat]

When did going to Starbucks become a liberal vs conservative issue? I don't think the tea party thing is supposed to be taken literally.

As for rudeness, pah-lease. Scott endorses Donald Trump. Donald's the one that advocates for violence towards people who don't agree with you.

Donald and his ilk are tired of political correctness.

Is there a politically correct way to not be politically correct?

[I-10east]

You go girl!!! or whatever the hell...

[peestandingup]

I think we're all getting off the point here. Let me first say I respect & like the people who run MJ & this isn't really an opinion but more an observation by coming here everyday for the past years. But the problem with these stories, esp on a community based city site, is that its simply not news. Let's be real, its only news here because of who it is & the political leanings of this site as a whole. I agree Scott's an idiot, but c mon now. A headliner?? I mean, if there's a legit story on Scott then fine. But a triggered SJW chick next to UofF yelling at him in a Starbucks while someone records it with their phone? Nah. That's amateur hour trash media. The view count on youtube is irrelevant. A farting hippo has over 14 million views there too.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed the click bait articles like this lately, whether they're headlines or in the forum. Or the fact that many of the headlines nowadays are outsourced from another publication & the lack of original content has dwindled. I know its hard to do & takes a lot of time/effort to write original stuff day to day, and Jax isnt exactly a hotbed of activity like many metros, but it seems more meat & less filler is really the way to go, even if it means less content overall.

I only write this because I do love the site & its creators, and I dont wanna see people turned off or pushed away, bringing the site's views down & thus the site itself eventually. That goes for the stories & what happens in the forums. Remember, not everyone may share the same political or social views as you do, and hardline self-righteous opinions, talking down to disagreeing viewpoints, not posting or even acknowledging news/events that go against the majority views, etc from many of the people here will only cause more viewers to not only not participate but to not come back period & the only activity will eventually be from the most vocal few who enjoy the eco chamber safe space with having their own viewpoints (whether right or wrong) validated by the others who share it that happen to remain. It's already starting to feel that way to be honest.

Anyways, just a thought.

[finehoe]

It's simple really.  If a subject doesn't appeal to you, don't read it.

[jcjohnpaint]

I think this governor is scum and deserves to be spit at!! 

[ronchamblin]

The woman's behavior was interesting.  If she was a nut, the event would pass as just one more nut in the wild.  However, I sense that she is quite sane, and of reasonable mental balance, allowing one to ponder the cause and validity of her behavior.

Her behavior was of course, her chosen form of communication.  She could have simply written a letter, or sent an email.  Her savage verbal attack was perhaps meant to reach many more ears that Scott's.  It did.  He or an assistant would have simply ignored an email or letter with similar content. 

I am not familiar with much detail about Scott's legislative actions.  However, the media and forums convey the opinion that he is one of the ... well ... one of partners in the bought and entrenched group of politicians who do not care about the average Joe or Priscilla ... but who do care about their moneyed supporters -- the wealthy, and the powerful business interests -- and therefore do not represent the majority of citizens, as they should.

The woman's vitriol is quite acceptable in my opinion, and should increasingly be the type of communication chosen to confront more of these arrogant politicians and corporate moguls who worship wealth and power at the expense of everything else, including the wellbeing of the average citizen.

Actually, in my opinion, more than a few of these arrogant, self-centered, and corrupt individuals -- and there are many in our governmental and corporate worlds -- should not only be shouted down in public whenever they stick their ugly heads about, but they should be prosecuted, and in many instances, either put behind bars for many years, or executed. 

A few executions would be quite reasonable and productive, as it would remove from our presence the most corrupt and arrogant, and perhaps the most filthy rich, thereby leaving opportunities for individuals of improved character and purpose ... individuals better suited to represent the needs and concerns of the majority of citizens, which is, after all, the ultimate purpose of the powers given to those in government,  and also in the mega-corporate world, because of the great influence their size has upon the quality of life of the majority of citizens.  Under the current dire circumstances, executions are badly needed so as to remove from our political landscape some of the abusive and destructive habits assumed by the individuals who've been entrenched in our government for many decades. 

But ... all is good ... as I've mentioned on an earlier post ... the individuals to be executed should be given a choice as to method.  Whereas I mentioned only three methods earlier,  I wish now to suggest four.  The Chair, the Rope, the Rifle, and the Guillotine.  All of these are quite horrendous.  Of the four, I might choose the rope, as it would be, compared to the others, less horrendous during the event, as it might offer a simple loss of consciousness, as if one faints for lack of oxygen.  Some might suggest adding a fifth ...  the injection method.  This, if available, would be my choice, as it might approximate taking a strong sleeping pill.   

In any case, I admire the woman, and would commend her if we were to meet, as I am of the opinion that she said what should have been said to this arrogant, corrupt, and self-centered, fool we have as a governor.

[peestandingup]

lol psu.  you've literally been saying or hinting at the same thing for 8 years.  People are opinionated and passionate and their views change.

You've certainly never stinted in sharing your own libertarian viewpoints on the site.  pretty much since your first few months of posting here. (which we love, and appreciate.  God knows how much time and effort you put into helping our various projects.  Im still grateful for the work you did to help out our early pub crawls.)

Not really. I've involved myself in some of these discussions, sure. But you'll never find a time where I tried to bully or push my views onto someone else, at least not directly or right off the bat. The only times I've gotten harsh is when involved in a discussion & someone attacked me or a legit view (usually with false info) & then I come hard. You should already know me by now if someone metaphorically smacks me, I'm hitting them with a baseball bat. I once made my older (and tougher) brother cry over the phone because he came at me with some completely false family drama accusations before he had any facts whatsoever & thought he was gonna lay into me. I'm not proud of this, its just the way I am for better or worse. But I've never EVER crated a thread pushing my views or trying to set some narrative on here, or really anywhere for that matter (if you find one let me know). My posts in general are counter punches. That's the difference.

And I'm not saying discussing politics is a bad thing (we talk about them pretty much every time we're together), but just the tone & the bullying on the site has gotten almost completely one sided & there's no room for varying opinions anymore. If one happens to pop up, its immediately shouted down, everyone high fives each other claiming victory & then you never hear from those people again (aside from a select few who just enjoy rustling feathers I guess?). That's why we see tons of posts like the stupid gun nut women who's kid shot her from the backseat (everybody point & laugh at the gun people), which I get she's an idiot, but then don't even see a single post about what happened in Brussels (at least I didn't see one). Even in this post, people found a way to bring up Donald Trump is a "raciss" & killing Rick Scott. Hardy har. If those post were about Bernie or Obama, how far do you think they would've gotten before the typical wrecking crew players came in? Not very.

That, coupled with the site issues I brought up, drives people away IMO. I'm not predicting the death of MJ (I never have), just that it prob doesn't help getting eyeballs on screen. And I'd personally like to see the site live up to its fullest potential because I know you & the team are extremely talented, I do enjoy coming here, reading the stories, engaging. From a viewers standpoint, that's getting harder is all I was saying when you consider everything mentioned.

It's simple really.  If a subject doesn't appeal to you, don't read it.

Its called constructive criticism, which I think is valid & needed to be said. If its a post that doesn't appeal to you, don't read or feel you need to reply to it. See how that works? Try it some time, it ain't hard. You basically have to do nothing. What's easier than that??

[Adam White]

That's why we see tons of posts like the stupid gun nut women who's kid shot her from the backseat (everybody point & laugh at the gun people), which I get she's an idiot, but then don't even see a single post about what happened in Brussels (at least I didn't see one).

Huh? I fail to see the connection between the two.

[finehoe]

That's why we see tons of posts like the stupid gun nut women who's kid shot her from the backseat (everybody point & laugh at the gun people), which I get she's an idiot, but then don't even see a single post about what happened in Brussels (at least I didn't see one).

The gun nut woman was in Jacksonville and Scott is the governor of Florida.  Brussels is on another continent.

See how that works?

[peestandingup]

Huh? I fail to see the connection between the two.

Refugees in Europe & which side of the coin is supporting it. I'll leave it at that & you can put two & two together.

The gun nut woman was in Jacksonville and Scott is the governor of Florida.  Brussels is on another continent.

See how that works?

What's this section for then?? http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/board,78.0.html

But keep playing dumb.

It would be nice personally to be challenged intellectually by an actual conservative online.  An independent thinker with the ability to debate things through and actually win on the merits of the argument would be like a little bit of heaven for me.  Ive even thought about debating the conservative point of view myself to switch things up.  And I mean genuinely conservative, not emotional right wingers.

If you can find one (or even better, a few of them) let me know.

Both sides usually suck at that if you wanna know the truth, esp the "team players". And do you really think the hardcore liberals here do it any better? They don't. Unless you call patting each other on the back in an echo chamber good debating skills. No opposing points get across to them because they're right, everyone else is wrong. If they're losing, that's when it becomes ad hominem & shout downs (basically, the woman in the video). Even if some of her points were valid, her smug smile at the end like she actually did something is cringy. Really all she basically did was screamed at a politician who she has disagreements with for 3 solid minutes without letting him respond, which is the typical way they have a "discussion" these days. You know its true. Not that the other side is any better, but you get what I'm saying hopefully.

In the case of site bias, I think I disagree with you PSU, but help me out.  Find me an intelligent thoughtful conservative or 2.

They wouldn't come here because of the above mentioned. It'd be like sticking your dick into a hornet's nest at this point. But you know they exist (I refuse to believe you don't know any personally). Plus, you were one once.

I think that you've always made the claim that every new bit of material that we post is 'click bait'.  You've made that claim a number of times over the past 5 years, and its not really the case.

Here & there, but its gotten worse within the last year or so. Esp since the site format changed. I'm not the only one who's noticed the change. Maybe "click bait" wasn't the correct term overall (although this headline certainly falls into that category). I guess too much filler is what I was getting at. But like I said, I know its gotta be tough coming up with stuff, gathering info, photos, etc.

And obviously everyone who posts here helps decide that for us.  have since the beginning.

Even when your opinion is in the minority of the opinions on a particular thread.   We listen to sensible stuff, and welcome thoughtful feedback (and every single one of us is available to hang out with and talk to directly at our weekly public meetings---have ben for ten years)

Thank you, Stephen.

[Tacachale]

Part of the issue is what you do and don't cover. You didn't cover, for instance, the state budget's allocations for NE Florida this year, or Scott approving the Jacksonville pension bill, or him endorsing Donald Trump, etc. But some woman shouting at Scott while he's getting coffee is a front page story. I'm sure it's good click bait, but it's not news.

The rest of this thread illustrates some of the other problems with the forums. The tendency for conversations to devolve into a back-and-forth with the same people. The buffaloing of people with differing perspectives. The creators failing to accept honest criticism and digging their heels in.

[urbaknight]

I'd like to see scott harassed like that everywhere he goes, he deserves it!