Another Shooting: San Bernardino California

Started by TheCat, December 02, 2015, 03:13:04 PM

finehoe

Quote from: coredumped on December 04, 2015, 03:45:51 PM
Please, cite the country with a gun ban where they don't have mass shootings and or killings. I'd love to hear of it.

Right, because if you can't eliminate something 100%, it's a failure.

How moronic.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Please stop using Australia as an example for gun control.

There were more than double the amount of Arrest Related Deaths by our own police force (497) ruled as homicide by the police than there were gun related deaths by the Entire Population of the continent of Australia (226).  This was in 2009.

Just stop the comparison.  It's senseless.

It's not the laws that are killing people, it's the culture.
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fsquid

Australia's gun violence was already trending down before their ban.

Also looks like this is another case of that religion of peace going a tad haywire.

Adam White

It's starting to get difficult to keep track of all the bigots on this forum.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

coredumped

Quote from: finehoe on December 04, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
How moronic.

Quote from: Adam White on December 04, 2015, 05:36:09 PM
It's starting to get difficult to keep track of all the bigots on this forum.

And people who would rather name call than give facts. Congress is coming to solve all your problems!!! Sit tight!
Jags season ticket holder.

Adam White

Quote from: coredumped on December 04, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: finehoe on December 04, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
How moronic.

Quote from: Adam White on December 04, 2015, 05:36:09 PM
It's starting to get difficult to keep track of all the bigots on this forum.

And people who would rather name call than give facts. Congress is coming to solve all your problems!!! Sit tight!

Congress isn't going to solve anything, because the system is broken and you people are so fucking arrogant and clueless that you'd rather self-destruct than ever admit you're wrong.

As far as the "rather name call than give facts" I did both. It is a fact that I am losing the ability to keep up with all the bigots (both name calling and fact) on this forum.

And the Jaguars suck.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

BridgeTroll

Nothing is broken Adam...it is working as it is supposed to. Your dissatisfaction with the outcome is not an indication of a broken anything.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

coredumped

Quote from: Adam White on December 04, 2015, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: coredumped on December 04, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: finehoe on December 04, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
How moronic.

Quote from: Adam White on December 04, 2015, 05:36:09 PM
It's starting to get difficult to keep track of all the bigots on this forum.

And people who would rather name call than give facts. Congress is coming to solve all your problems!!! Sit tight!

Congress isn't going to solve anything, because the system is broken and you people are so fucking arrogant and clueless that you'd rather self-destruct than ever admit you're wrong.

As far as the "rather name call than give facts" I did both. It is a fact that I am losing the ability to keep up with all the bigots (both name calling and fact) on this forum.

And the Jaguars suck.

LOL, the Jaguars are in the playoff hunt actually. But as facts escape you, we'll stay on topic.

Adam, I don't know you, but it seems like you have some growing up to do. Resorting to name calling, cursing and just off topic insults hurt the credibility of your case.

Of course, you could just be an Internet troll, which is what I prefer to believe. But in the case that you aren't I thought I would offer up that friendly advice.

Smile more!
Jags season ticket holder.

Ocklawaha

Watching from the sidelines. Seems no one has noticed that guns of ANY kind are illegal in California State office buildings.

Foreign military soldiers assigned to spreading death and terror in America won't give a damn.

fsquid

I'm just happy they sucked at shooting.  120 shots fired and only killed 14

coredumped

Stephen I agree completely. Bigotry should stop, but so should the name calling. In this PC day and age, it's really considered bullying.
It's a bad time to be Muslim, akin to being Japanese years ago. We need to blame these awful things on the individual, not the religion or guns.
Jags season ticket holder.

Adam White

Quote from: coredumped on December 04, 2015, 09:42:36 PM
Stephen I agree completely. Bigotry should stop, but so should the name calling. In this PC day and age, it's really considered bullying.
It's a bad time to be Muslim, akin to being Japanese years ago. We need to blame these awful things on the individual, not the religion or guns.

...which is why I made a comment about bigotry. A particular poster made a comment about the "religion of peace". Here we go again - tarring an entire people with the same brush because of the actions of a few.

I am blaming these awful things on a couple of individuals who were able to get guns because America is crazy and doesn't seem to appreciate that guns are a serious problem.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Adam White

Quote from: Apache on December 05, 2015, 12:26:41 AM
Did someone specifically say something about Muslims? I missed it. Or was it indirect, as Adam was in his tirade towards "some" other poster?

See the response above. Making references to the "religion of peace" is certainly a way to imply that Islam is bad and that this incident was a result of that.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Adam White

Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 04, 2015, 08:12:08 PM
Nothing is broken Adam...it is working as it is supposed to. Your dissatisfaction with the outcome is not an indication of a broken anything.

I disagree. The system is broken when special interests are able to use their economic power to influence the decision of government in spite of the will of the electorate. The system is broken. The system is rigged. The USA is not democratic anymore. It might have the trappings, but it doesn't actually function that way.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

finehoe

Quote from: coredumped on December 04, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: finehoe on December 04, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
How moronic.

Quote from: Adam White on December 04, 2015, 05:36:09 PM
It's starting to get difficult to keep track of all the bigots on this forum.

And people who would rather name call than give facts. Congress is coming to solve all your problems!!! Sit tight!

I already gave you the facts:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/nation/gun-homicides-ownership/table/

And nobody called you a name; I said the idea that if you can't get killings down to zero then you shouldn't do anything at all is moronic.  Which it is.