EverBank Field Development Renderings

[Tacachale]

If that was your point, you didn't make it very well.

Either that, or you chose to focus on vicupstate's net worth rather than his argument.

Huh?

[finehoe]

If that was your point, you didn't make it very well.

Either that, or you chose to focus on vicupstate's net worth rather than his argument.

Huh?

After vicupstate first posted his analogy, which you admit went over your head, your response was

^Go ahead and propose it with your $45 million dollars.

and when he explained it further, you replied

It's still a hypothetical scenario based on money you don't actually have.

as if vic's finances had anything at all to do with the point he was making.

[Tacachale]

If that was your point, you didn't make it very well.

Either that, or you chose to focus on vicupstate's net worth rather than his argument.

Huh?

After vicupstate first posted his analogy, which you admit went over your head, your response was

^Go ahead and propose it with your $45 million dollars.

and when he explained it further, you replied

It's still a hypothetical scenario based on money you don't actually have.

as if vic's finances had anything at all to do with the point he was making.

And again, whatever the point was, he didn't make it very well.

[tufsu1]

I'm still waiting to see an actual site plan and scaled drawings.  Guess that's too much to ask for before agreeing to $45 million.

[Marle Brando]

Well whatever the final site plan and look, it sure won't take much to beat the tent we call an amphitheater currently at metro park. Thus is good for the sports district, the elbow, downtown, the city and all of us who are actually concert goers. Its been a total embarrassing situation for the city too long having concerts skip over Jax and head to Auggie because of our inadequate venue and uptight residents across the water. Time to change that. Those who still oppose and act like the money is being taken directly from their paychecks are probably the same ones who don't attend, contribute to any social activities in the core and could care less about the value adequate entertainment facilities bring to the total quality of life in the city. Move if you don't like what Khan is doing. He seems to be the spark this city needed. I for one remember the superbowl walking by out of towners hearing them openly bash our downtown for lack of anything interesting to do. It's going to take small steps to get where we need to be but this is certainly a step in the right direction. Curry seized the opportunity and made a good purchase on a half off sell.

[Adam White]

Move if you don't like what Khan is doing.

Or... here's an idea: why don't you move to North Korea?

[Marle Brando]

No thanks, I like it here.

[PeeJayEss]

I don't think it's unreasonable for a citizen of a city to complain about how that city is run while still maintaining their residence. I even more don't think someone ought to stop complaining and move away simply because they don't like the guy in town that owns the NFL team. That's an idiotic argument.

[Marle Brando]

It wasnt an argument. It was a statement. Said statement may have rubbed a few the wrong way and I apologize. U are right, no one should have to move simply because they disagree. I wrote out of emotion after reading comments of a few earlier here that IMO don't want to see any progress if the city has to spend a dime. Some here seem to have an anti-khan stance on anything the guy does which is why I said what I maybe shouldn't have. I never once called any one particular person out nor said their opinion was idiotic. But neither one of our opinions will matter much when we are both sitting in a brand spanking new amphitheater rocking out. But then again, I'm picky about color scheme and may find their choice of seat colors just plain idiotic. 

[coredumped]

Some people are just overly sensitive, hopefully it will be better when I get my mansion in North Korea.
I think this will be a great value to downtown, lots of younger people will head downtown to enjoy a concert then maybe off to the elbow for a post party.

And as a bonus, the noise might keep Redmon awake across the river

[tufsu1]

Well whatever the final site plan and look, it sure won't take much to beat the tent we call an amphitheater currently at metro park.

really?  Met Park can accommodate 12,000+ people, many of which sit on lawn chairs and blankets.  That's a pretty nice feature of many amphitheaters around the country.  Stated capacity for this one was 10,000, but I think it may have shrunk as it seems there will be very little "lawn" seating. 

The problem wasn't acts skipping over Jax. because of quality issues with Met Park.  It was simply the 12-ticketed event limit.  Guess you are really excited about all the 5 shows the City can bring in now....along with the 7-9 shows Khan's team will be bringing in (around home games).

[Tacachale]

Well whatever the final site plan and look, it sure won't take much to beat the tent we call an amphitheater currently at metro park.

really?  Met Park can accommodate 12,000+ people, many of which sit on lawn chairs and blankets.  That's a pretty nice feature of many amphitheaters around the country.  Stated capacity for this one was 10,000, but I think it may have shrunk as it seems there will be very little "lawn" seating. 

The problem wasn't acts skipping over Jax. because of quality issues with Met Park.  It was simply the 12-ticketed event limit.  Guess you are really excited about all the 5 shows the City can bring in now....along with the 7-9 shows Khan's team will be bringing in (around home games).

Yes, the issue is acts skipping over Jax because of the lack of appropriate venues for modern concerts. Met Park had a good run, but the "amphitheater" thing there was never a good facility, and it's so dilapidated now that it's all but impossible to use for that purpose. Just this weekend festival planners had to spend their own money on temporary replacement stages. And unfortunately it will never be made into anything better, not that it could be without substantial costs and finagling with the National Parks Service.

At the new amphitheater the Jaguars have repeatedly said they expect to hold 25 events a year, not "7-9". Even this number is too low, but double the events Met Park could do. And the city is *guaranteed* the ability to 5 events a year, but can host more if they want. How many events does the city do currently?

http://jacksonville.com/news/2015-11-05/story/amphitheater-part-proposed-90-million-improvement-plan-everbank-field-city

[tpot]

My take away from Metro Park being such a disaster is JAX fails on many levels to maintain its properties......most parks are not well kept, roads are falling in the river, the list goes on........

[Marle Brando]

Well whatever the final site plan and look, it sure won't take much to beat the tent we call an amphitheater currently at metro park.

really?  Met Park can accommodate 12,000+ people, many of which sit on lawn chairs and blankets.  That's a pretty nice feature of many amphitheaters around the country.  Stated capacity for this one was 10,000, but I think it may have shrunk as it seems there will be very little "lawn" seating. 

The problem wasn't acts skipping over Jax. because of quality issues with Met Park.  It was simply the 12-ticketed event limit.  Guess you are really excited about all the 5 shows the City can bring in now....along with the 7-9 shows Khan's team will be bringing in (around home games).

Yes. I am excited.

[RattlerGator]

Yes, the issue is acts skipping over Jax because of the lack of appropriate venues for modern concerts. Met Park had a good run, but the "amphitheater" thing there was never a good facility, and it's so dilapidated now that it's all but impossible to use for that purpose. Just this weekend festival planners had to spend their own money on temporary replacement stages. And unfortunately it will never be made into anything better, not that it could be without substantial costs and finagling with the National Parks Service.

At the new amphitheater the Jaguars have repeatedly said they expect to hold 25 events a year, not "7-9". Even this number is too low, but double the events Met Park could do. And the city is *guaranteed* the ability to 5 events a year, but can host more if they want. How many events does the city do currently?

http://jacksonville.com/news/2015-11-05/story/amphitheater-part-proposed-90-million-improvement-plan-everbank-field-city

This is the continually weird thing to me. Tufsu1 will comment in a way to attack the perspective that lists *a* problem with Metropolitan Park in order to assert that -- no, no, no! -- Metropolitan Park really did have some attributes but *the* real problem was the 12-ticketed event limit.

Well, damn. Who gives a flying f*ck about that minutia? I do give a damn about purposely misstating the intended minimum events contemplated and rephrasing them as some kind of "this is all that's gonna happen" standard. Metropolitan Park is an obvious problem (for not one reason but MULTIPLE reasons) and this initiative solves multiple issues associated with the Met Park problem. Yet the bitch-and-moan crowd on here has to still bitch-and-moan about this or that *and* whatchamacallit, no matter how obviously unreal the rationale.

Yes, they probably did overstate on the capacity of the new space to accommodate 10,000 people. We shall soon see. They may *not* have. Whatever the case, it's a very creative thing they are attempting. Some integration between the amphitheater and the south end of EverBank? Hmmmmmm. And throw in the flex field, a huge space that will accommodate a big crowd all on its own? That EverBank / Amphitheater / FlexField combination could prove to be very interesting, and might end up being utilized in ways that might surprise the bitch-and-moan crowd still desperate to cast some shade on Shad Khan -- a billionaire investing millions of his own money in Downtown Jacksonville.

Newsflash: there are few American cities that wouldn't kill to have a billionaire investing millions of privately-controlled dollars in their Downtown no matter how much public-private partnership money was included in the mix.