Miami Dolphins Want $90M In Tax Rebates for Sun Life Stadium Renovation

[thelakelander]

Am I the only one that things that is the ugliest stadium design I have ever seen?

It's hideous

Agreed.  Very fitting for the Dolphins....   

But this is nice....


Add a roof to shield you from the Florida sun and rain and this becomes bliss....

[Jason]

Damn, those seats look awesome!!  BUT, if your a Dolphins fan you will need comfy seats because you won't have any excuse to stand up and cheer your team...   



Its been too long for me to be able to poke fun at the Phins....  I think it has been since that one game that sent a Hall of Fame QB into retirement

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

But this is nice....


Add a roof to shield you from the Florida sun and rain and this becomes bliss....

This picture BTW was taken with 8 minutes left to play in the 2nd quarter of any given 'Cane home game.

[tufsu1]

Its been too long for me to be able to poke fun at the Phins....  I think it has been since that one game that sent a Hall of Fame QB into retirement

unfortunately for Miami, said Hall of Fame QB was still playing 5 years beyond when he should have retired....and that is part of the why the team has been useless for almost 2 decades.

[thelakelander]

The "gunslinger" was never the problem. It was Jimmy Johnson trying to hand cuff him.

[I-10east]

Am I the only one that things that is the ugliest stadium design I have ever seen?

It's hideous

Yeah, the canopy thing atop Sun Life may bring some nice shade, but it's very unaesthetic. It looks like something in a foreign country; Oh wait, Miami IS in a foreign country! LOL  

[spuwho]

EverBank Field is not the only NFL stadium undergoing refit in Florida.

The roof is going up over SunLife in Miami right now.

[thelakelander]

^This helped them land another super bowl. It will be quite comfy when completed. However, the focus needs to be on improving the products being put on the field (Canes and Fins)!

[Kerry]

^This helped them land another super bowl. It will be quite comfy when completed. However, the focus needs to be on improving the products being put on the field (Canes and Fins)!

The problem is the Super Bowl is also a money loser.  All they did now was spend money to lose money.  That is no way to run a railroad.

[Steve]

^Doesn't have to be. The problem with these events is when cities that really aren't set up to handle them do it (like Jacksonville did in 2005). For example, the World Cup has lost unworldly amounts of money...because countries like Brazil build these facilities that will never be used again.

On the other hand, the US and many of Europe's countries could host the World Cup TOMORROW.

[Kerry]

The NFL and local businesses make tons of money on the Super Bowl - the problem is the host cities lose money.  The events are brought to cities under the guise they will bring in tax revenue - but none of that means squat when the event is give public subsidies and tax rebate that are greater than the additional tax revenue generated (cough cough - every corporate expansion in the US in the last 30 years).  When you lose money on every transaction you can't make up for it volume.

Things like the World Cup and Olympics are different in that they require a whole new set of venues to be created (increasing in third world countries that are poor to begin with).  The ultimate solution there is eventually going to be that there is a single permanent host city for those events.  Personally, I would like to see Athens as the permanent Summer Olympic city and maybe Vancouver for the Winter - but this is a whole other discussion.

[Snufflee]

^This helped them land another super bowl. It will be quite comfy when completed. However, the focus needs to be on improving the products being put on the field (Canes and Fins)!

The problem is the Super Bowl is also a money loser.  All they did now was spend money to lose money.  That is no way to run a railroad.

Yep, this article is very eye opening about the cost to a city/region for hosting this fake panacea of increased revenue.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/super-bowl-host-cities-always-lose-the-money-game-2016-02-05

[Kerry]

^This helped them land another super bowl. It will be quite comfy when completed. However, the focus needs to be on improving the products being put on the field (Canes and Fins)!

The problem is the Super Bowl is also a money loser.  All they did now was spend money to lose money.  That is no way to run a railroad.

Yep, this article is very eye opening about the cost to a city/region for hosting this fake panacea of increased revenue.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/super-bowl-host-cities-always-lose-the-money-game-2016-02-05

Holy Cow - here is hoping Jax never hosts another one.

http://www.startribune.com/no-10-nfl-had-a-long-pricey-and-secret-super-bowl-wish-list-for-minneapolis/262253921/

[thelakelander]

Don't worry. Jax won't be getting one, anytime soon, even if it tried.

[Steve]

^This helped them land another super bowl. It will be quite comfy when completed. However, the focus needs to be on improving the products being put on the field (Canes and Fins)!

The problem is the Super Bowl is also a money loser.  All they did now was spend money to lose money.  That is no way to run a railroad.

Yep, this article is very eye opening about the cost to a city/region for hosting this fake panacea of increased revenue.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/super-bowl-host-cities-always-lose-the-money-game-2016-02-05

I mean, the example given says that San Francisco spent $4.8M and got $100k back. I mean, if they lost $4.7 directly, then so be it. I wouldn't have a problem with that.

Jacksonville on the other hand would spend a lot more than $4.8M to host it, which is why I think they shouldn't for a while - at least until Jacksonville has enough hotels to not need cruise ships.