Google Fiber Officially Begins "Exploration" in Jacksonville

David · October 29, 2015, 12:00:23 PM

Quote from: Dapperdan on October 29, 2015, 11:16:03 AM
IKEA effect?? lol

BINGO! We're getting the Summer Olympics next.

David · October 29, 2015, 12:04:20 PM

And this is great news. People are really excited about gigabit internet speeds. They will have to do some some serious router/hardwire upgrades at home if they want to fully appreciate this when if (when) it gets rolled out here in Jax.

Comcast with their 100mbps download speeds were already bottle necking on my wireless g/n router & ethernet over powerline adaptors, I had to upgrade those just to get the full download speeds in my house.

http://marcelbrown.com/2014/10/07/high-speed-internet-can-router-keep-anymore/

Lunican · October 29, 2015, 01:31:08 PM

It will be interesting to see which neighborhoods they initially target.

Crabernacle · October 29, 2015, 02:38:59 PM

Sure it's way too early to gloat, but I'm already loving the St. Johns County folks whinging about the possibility of not being included.

David · October 29, 2015, 05:43:12 PM

^ Clay County is already doing the same, well at least one co-worker of mine from Clay. I showed her the Orange Park thread on here as an explanation.

spuwho · October 29, 2015, 05:45:37 PM

Google Fiber had a major outage in Kansas City earlier this week. The outage started right at the beginning of the first game of the World Series. Many missed the opening home run as the outage lasted an hour.

southsider1015 · October 29, 2015, 08:58:17 PM

But then they credited everyone two days, regardless if they were really trying to watch it (who watched baseball in TV anyway).

With Comcast, you have to call, complain, whine, and threaten to leave if you lose service and want a credit.

mtraininjax · October 30, 2015, 01:15:38 AM

Did anyone compare the costs? Construction costs, per user are $300 and the service when installed in KC runs between 70 and 130. That is not too far off from where Xfinity is now, and with Xfinity, you can use their service all over town for downloading on smartphones. It will help us with internet bandwidth, for sure, but not sure this is a great savings, just yet.

RattlerGator · October 30, 2015, 06:32:24 AM

Quote from: spuwho on October 29, 2015, 07:55:04 AM
Rattler,

I have heard/seen similar pleas for Google Fiber in other cities. Most of them void of economic thought, more about civic pride.

That is what drives the "goodness" remark.

Got it.

Josh · October 30, 2015, 08:44:09 AM

Quote from: mtraininjax on October 30, 2015, 01:15:38 AM
Did anyone compare the costs? Construction costs, per user are $300 and the service when installed in KC runs between 70 and 130. That is not too far off from where Xfinity is now, and with Xfinity, you can use their service all over town for downloading on smartphones. It will help us with internet bandwidth, for sure, but not sure this is a great savings, just yet.

The $300 construction costs are only if you choose their free Internet package. Plus it's payed in installments. 5Mbps is still fast enough to stream 1080p HD from Netflix/Youtube.

https://fiber.google.com/cities/kansascity/plans/

spuwho · October 30, 2015, 10:25:55 PM

Quote from: Josh on October 30, 2015, 08:44:09 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on October 30, 2015, 01:15:38 AM
Did anyone compare the costs? Construction costs, per user are $300 and the service when installed in KC runs between 70 and 130. That is not too far off from where Xfinity is now, and with Xfinity, you can use their service all over town for downloading on smartphones. It will help us with internet bandwidth, for sure, but not sure this is a great savings, just yet.

The $300 construction costs are only if you choose their free Internet package. Plus it's payed in installments. 5Mbps is still fast enough to stream 1080p HD from Netflix/Youtube.

https://fiber.google.com/cities/kansascity/plans/

I just tested 1080p on my Comcast Blast! service. (up to 75Mbps) No issues on bandwidth, peak 5Mbps, but settled into 3Mbps. But the streamer appliance (Roku3), while it said it supported it, kept blanking out periodically. I set it back to 720p and it stopped.

So while 1Gbps internet sounds great, it will take a lot of simultaneous activities to enjoy it. Anyone who surfs torrents will love it to death.

blfair · October 31, 2015, 04:07:16 PM

Quote from: spuwho on October 30, 2015, 10:25:55 PM
I just tested 1080p on my Comcast Blast! service. (up to 75Mbps) No issues on bandwidth, peak 5Mbps, but settled into 3Mbps. But the streamer appliance (Roku3), while it said it supported it, kept blanking out periodically. I set it back to 720p and it stopped.

So while 1Gbps internet sounds great, it will take a lot of simultaneous activities to enjoy it. Anyone who surfs torrents will love it to death.

I'm surprised you had issues with 1080p...I stream 4k flawlessly on a 50mbps connection. That's about 4x the resolution of 1080p. My guess is your roku is on wifi. It's probably a bandwidth issue but not with your internet connection. Streaming 1080+ over wireless can be iffy unless none of your neighbors have wifi... Congestion in the wifi spectrum is a real problem now. If you can hardwire it my guess is you'll never have issues.

spuwho · October 31, 2015, 05:25:07 PM

Quote from: blfair on October 31, 2015, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: spuwho on October 30, 2015, 10:25:55 PM
I just tested 1080p on my Comcast Blast! service. (up to 75Mbps) No issues on bandwidth, peak 5Mbps, but settled into 3Mbps. But the streamer appliance (Roku3), while it said it supported it, kept blanking out periodically. I set it back to 720p and it stopped.

So while 1Gbps internet sounds great, it will take a lot of simultaneous activities to enjoy it. Anyone who surfs torrents will love it to death.

I'm surprised you had issues with 1080p...I stream 4k flawlessly on a 50mbps connection. That's about 4x the resolution of 1080p. My guess is your roku is on wifi. It's probably a bandwidth issue but not with your internet connection. Streaming 1080+ over wireless can be iffy unless none of your neighbors have wifi... Congestion in the wifi spectrum is a real problem now. If you can hardwire it my guess is you'll never have issues.

Your assessment is accurate.

The Roku is on a non-overlapping frequency in the A band paired with a AC router. 1080p was too much for that A band. I checked for interference as well. (None)

I have a ethernet over power link that I havent tested yet, so in the meantime I will keep it at 720p.

The "blanking out" was clearly the buffer in the Roku running out.

If that doesnt work I will have to have a ethernet cable pulled down the the entertainment center. The ethernet over power maxes out at around 68Mbps, so that should cut it.

ChriswUfGator · November 02, 2015, 10:48:19 AM

Run new cat 6 to all your media devices, tried for years to get wireless to work reliably and at the end of the day there's just too many possible things to go wrong with it, I threw in the towel and ran wire. Haven't had a problem since.

David · November 02, 2015, 02:23:38 PM

We had similar issues on our home wireless network , but since we've gone with a new netgear router with th newer ac wireless protocol, it's resolved most of our connection issues. The 2.4ghz range was getting very very crowded on my block.

Ethernet over power has been gaining some traction in recent years and it's working out well for me in my garage where the wireless signal is weaker, but since Comcast up'd their download speed to 100 Mbps, it's only pulling 50-55Mbps, the 5ghz/ac wireless network gives me all of it (when i'm within range that is)

Nothing beats running cat6 cable like Chris said. I just haven't got around to hard-wiring the house yet.