Planning Commission member refuses Jacksonville Mayor Curry's request to resign

[tufsu1]

Could it have something to do, Jax native, with her likely being a clearly partisan Democrat? Maybe kinda sorta?

I'm pretty sure there are lots of registered Democrats in the city.  So what happened to mayor Curry's "One City One Jacksonville" thing?

[Tacachale]

Regardless of this dispute, something tells me city planning is going to improve from its current level. It certainly couldn't get much more dysfunctional than it has been.

[strider]

Directors of Department are different from independent commissions, Strider.

Its not a question that he has in many case made great staffing decisions, its the precedent being set and the partisan basis.

Of all people, you should understand this.

From the by-laws of at least the Planning Commission, the only real difference is the term limits.  The Directors do not have set limits and can serve indefinitely, assuming successive Mayors wish them to.  What history and personal experience has shown me is that every Mayoral appointment is very political, from the Director slots all the way down to the HPC. You can talk about precedent all you wish, it won't change the fact that this is perfectly legal under the law.

As to Lisa King and why I am not sad she will not be on the commission, well, when a person who can not vote for her has her campaign signs in his yard, during a Planning Commission hearing Ms King quotes that persons and helps insure the Commission finds in the way he wishes and then three days later, the maximum campaign contributions are made by that person, I have to step back and wonder.  At the very least, no one chosen to replace her will be any worse and who knows, maybe better for the Urban Core.

[strider]

Directors of Department are different from independent commissions, Strider.

Its not a question that he has in many case made great staffing decisions, its the precedent being set and the partisan basis.

Of all people, you should understand this.

From the by-laws of at least the Planning Commission, the only real difference is the term limits.  The Directors do not have set limits and can serve indefinitely, assuming successive Mayors wish them to.  What history and personal experience has shown me is that every Mayoral appointment is very political, from the Director slots all the way down to the HPC. You can talk about precedent all you wish, it won't change the fact that this is perfectly legal under the law.

As to Lisa King and why I am not sad she will not be on the commission, well, when a person who can not vote for her has her campaign signs in his yard, during a Planning Commission hearing Ms King quotes that persons and helps insure the Commission finds in the way he wishes and then three days later, the maximum campaign contributions are made by that person, I have to step back and wonder.  At the very least, no one chosen to replace her will be any worse and who knows, maybe better for the Urban Core.

kind of like the urban core architecture i suppose.

LOL -  so does this mean the current commission is a bit worn and in need of rehab and the new members will make it like new again?

[strider]

Good one, Stephen!

Not correct, but nicely done.

[tufsu1]

Regardless of this dispute, something tells me city planning is going to improve from its current level. It certainly couldn't get much more dysfunctional than it has been.

If, and only if, the technical analysis doesn't get polluted with politics.....and I do not have high hopes for that.

[Tacachale]

Regardless of this dispute, something tells me city planning is going to improve from its current level. It certainly couldn't get much more dysfunctional than it has been.

If, and only if, the technical analysis doesn't get polluted with politics.....and I do not have high hopes for that.

It's already "polluted by politics", as well as polluted by dysfunction. If we improve on the latter it will be a substantial net gain.

[tufsu1]

^ not if the new commissioners are automatically "business friendly" and approve anything and everything.  That seems to be the goal of some.

[Tacachale]

^ not if the new commissioners are automatically "business friendly" and approve anything and everything.  That seems to be the goal of some.

[citation needed]

[spuwho]

Regardless of this dispute, something tells me city planning is going to improve from its current level. It certainly couldn't get much more dysfunctional than it has been.

If, and only if, the technical analysis doesn't get polluted with politics.....and I do not have high hopes for that.

LOL. Kind of like the Mobility Plan.

[strider]

Least we forget, Mayor Curry's administration is the one bringing back Bill Killingsworth who did the Mobility Plan and is progressive in his thinking.  That certainly should give us hope.

[Kay]

Curry was quoted in the paper saying Lisa King is an obstacle on the Planning Commission.  What do you think he means? 

^ not if the new commissioners are automatically "business friendly" and approve anything and everything.  That seems to be the goal of some.

[citation needed]

[RattlerGator]

It seems to be working out so well for that junk heap of an area you guys have in Clay County, thinking this way.  If you don't mind, let the actual city figure out how it should work, Rattler Gator.

Stephen, trust me when I tell you this: we're quite pleased the current beauty of Orange Park & Clay County does not find favor with you.

But as for the "city" figuring out how Big Duval should work -- that's exactly what happened when Mayor Curry was elected, was it not? And it's that decision that so perplexes the State Committeewoman for the Democrat Party, is it not?

But, do continue with the ginned up hysteria. In the "city," that is. While y'all are "figuring out" the new lay of the land.

[Jax native]

Strider, you really don't get it.  You think Lisa King is the problem?  Someone who can't vote for her has a sign in his/her yard.  YOu do realize the neighbors can't vote either.  You think  she single-handedly push something through Planning Commission alone?   Do you know how many people are on Planning Commision?

Heard of Paul Harden?  Lobbyist with questionable  tactics.  Who wants a Strip club where IT IS NOT ZONED FOR NOR DOES COMMUNITY WANT.  Lisa King and others stopped this in the planning Commission.  Do you know who will okay it?  "Business Friendly" Curry handpicked, not qualified peeps.  Do you know the influence and money Paul Harden can throw around?  Have you ever seen the scoreboards at the stadium?  Who do you think pushed that through? 

The idea that Lisa King "personally" did something you will not mention so we really don't know if what you are talking about exists, but you  think she's the bad one?

Pay attention.  You're not. 

[vicupstate]

Regardless of this dispute, something tells me city planning is going to improve from its current level. It certainly couldn't get much more dysfunctional than it has been.

If, and only if, the technical analysis doesn't get polluted with politics.....and I do not have high hopes for that.

It's already "polluted by politics", as well as polluted by dysfunction. If we improve on the latter it will be a substantial net gain.

Adding partisan politics into the mix NEVER improved anything, in my experience, it only gives a new dimension for dissension. From here on out, this entire board will flip with every new mayor.  A seat will be a political 'reward' more than ever.   

The downside of term limited mayors will only be compounded.