Who wants a "Learning From" MJ Trip??

[ProjectMaximus]

Just trying to get a feel for interest, and if so to what degree of time commitment, cost, etc.
Also picked a few cities that vary in caliber and distance just to get an idea of what might ultimately be best to target.
Comment away if you have any preferences, thoughts, etc.
We can figure out dates in the future, but I know I can't possibly do this until after the new year.

[Noone]

Anyone interested in doing a RICO Downtown kayak loop in 4.8 miles of the Rivers Edge zone in some of the most restricted Waterways in the state? Seriously.

I am Downtown and why you aren't

[ben says]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

[The_Choose_1]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

[ProjectMaximus]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

I love it Ben! I was hoping you'd throw in your 2 cents. I think it probably makes sense to crawl before we run a marathon (who knows...everybody might hate each other after two days) but I would be very interested in Sydney/Melbourne.

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

From what I've read he's absolutely right about Melbourne and maybe speaking with hyperbole about Sydney.

[Adam White]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

I reckon Ben knows what he's talking about and I don't think anyone would accuse him of seeing the world through rose-colored glasses! He's a clever guy and he travels A LOT.

[The_Choose_1]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

I reckon Ben knows what he's talking about and I don't think anyone would accuse him of seeing the world through rose-colored glasses! He's a clever guy and he travels A LOT.

I have a very good & true friend that lives in Manly Australia. And he knows Sydney better then Mr Travel aka Ben Says.

[Adam White]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

I reckon Ben knows what he's talking about and I don't think anyone would accuse him of seeing the world through rose-colored glasses! He's a clever guy and he travels A LOT.

I have a very good & true friend that lives in Manly Australia. And he knows Sydney better then Mr Travel aka Ben Says.

Have you been to Sydney?

[The_Choose_1]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

I reckon Ben knows what he's talking about and I don't think anyone would accuse him of seeing the world through rose-colored glasses! He's a clever guy and he travels A LOT.

I have a very good & true friend that lives in Manly Australia. And he knows Sydney better then Mr Travel aka Ben Says.

Have you been to Sydney?

My best friend lives in Manly Australia and works in Sydney and here is what he said. (Ben Says is only half right, the city itself, that is the CBD and surrounding area date from colonial times when there were no cars. Sydney just grew, and grew and grew. However the twentieth century saw town planning and better facilities). So I was half wrong and so was Ben Says. No I haven't been to Sydney. After surviving Six blood clots I wouldn't last on a long plane ride. Unless it was a medical Jet with Doctors watching me or a long cruise.   

[Adam White]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

I reckon Ben knows what he's talking about and I don't think anyone would accuse him of seeing the world through rose-colored glasses! He's a clever guy and he travels A LOT.

I have a very good & true friend that lives in Manly Australia. And he knows Sydney better then Mr Travel aka Ben Says.

Have you been to Sydney?

My best friend lives in Manly Australia and works in Sydney and here is what he said. (Ben Says is only half right, the city itself, that is the CBD and surrounding area date from colonial times when there were no cars. Sydney just grew, and grew and grew. However the twentieth century saw town planning and better facilities). So I was half wrong and so was Ben Says. No I haven't been to Sydney. After surviving Six blood clots I wouldn't last on a long plane ride. Unless it was a medical Jet with Doctors watching me or a long cruise.   

So, no.

I'd rather accept the opinion of someone who's been there than someone who has a friend that supposedly says something or other. Sorry.

Edit: it appears Wikipedia doesn't agree with your friend from Manly, either:

Lieutenant William Dawes produced a town plan in 1790 but it was ignored by the colony's leaders. Sydney's layout today reflects this lack of planning. (emphasis added)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney#Urban_structure

[The_Choose_1]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

I reckon Ben knows what he's talking about and I don't think anyone would accuse him of seeing the world through rose-colored glasses! He's a clever guy and he travels A LOT.

I have a very good & true friend that lives in Manly Australia. And he knows Sydney better then Mr Travel aka Ben Says.

Have you been to Sydney?

My best friend lives in Manly Australia and works in Sydney and here is what he said. (Ben Says is only half right, the city itself, that is the CBD and surrounding area date from colonial times when there were no cars. Sydney just grew, and grew and grew. However the twentieth century saw town planning and better facilities). So I was half wrong and so was Ben Says. No I haven't been to Sydney. After surviving Six blood clots I wouldn't last on a long plane ride. Unless it was a medical Jet with Doctors watching me or a long cruise.   

So, no.

I'd rather accept the opinion of someone who's been there than someone who has a friend that supposedly says something or other. Sorry.

Edit: it appears Wikipedia doesn't agree with your friend from Manly, either:

Lieutenant William Dawes produced a town plan in 1790 but it was ignored by the colony's leaders. Sydney's layout today reflects this lack of planning. (emphasis added)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney#Urban_structure

Whatever My friend JC has a right to his opinion also. And he does live in Manly and he does work in Sydney so go ahead and believe in ben says the travel man & wikipedia that is made of a lot of untrue facts all the time. For my friend JC knows a lot more then YOU about his country & city. So please go there and tell the world what you see or get it from the eye's of a travel roach that is all about selling you a travel program.

[Adam White]

Let me preface this by saying: I'm not kidding.

I'd be interesting in designing and/or leading an international MJ-associated trip.

I think one of the most interesting trip ideas, to explore urban design, would be this: Sydney and Melbourne.

They're both number 1+2 on the 'best cities to live in' polls.

But the coolest part is....Sydney had ZERO urban planning behind it, and is an absolute mess (some streets people can't walk thru, cars have trouble parking, etc).

On the flip side, Melbourne was a city planned on a grid.

THINK ABOUT IT GUYS 

You're so far from the truth about Sydney Australia! When it comes to mass transit and moving people around Sydney they're number 1. Not every city is prefect but since you look through rose colored glasses you don't see very well. 

I reckon Ben knows what he's talking about and I don't think anyone would accuse him of seeing the world through rose-colored glasses! He's a clever guy and he travels A LOT.

I have a very good & true friend that lives in Manly Australia. And he knows Sydney better then Mr Travel aka Ben Says.

Have you been to Sydney?

My best friend lives in Manly Australia and works in Sydney and here is what he said. (Ben Says is only half right, the city itself, that is the CBD and surrounding area date from colonial times when there were no cars. Sydney just grew, and grew and grew. However the twentieth century saw town planning and better facilities). So I was half wrong and so was Ben Says. No I haven't been to Sydney. After surviving Six blood clots I wouldn't last on a long plane ride. Unless it was a medical Jet with Doctors watching me or a long cruise.   

So, no.

I'd rather accept the opinion of someone who's been there than someone who has a friend that supposedly says something or other. Sorry.

Edit: it appears Wikipedia doesn't agree with your friend from Manly, either:

Lieutenant William Dawes produced a town plan in 1790 but it was ignored by the colony's leaders. Sydney's layout today reflects this lack of planning. (emphasis added)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney#Urban_structure

Whatever My friend JC has a right to his opinion also. And he does live in Manly and he does work in Sydney so go ahead and believe in ben says the travel man & wikipedia that is made of a lot of untrue facts all the time. For my friend JC knows a lot more then YOU about his country & city. So please go there and tell the world what you see or get it from the eye's of a travel roach that is all about selling you a travel program.

A) I've never said your friend isn't entitled to his opinion.
B) I've never spoken to your friend, so I have no idea what his opinion is.
C) That Wikipedia article has links to sources - so that is likely not made up.
D) You can put all the smileys you want at the end of your posts, but that doesn't mean you're not being really rude.

[Adam White]

http://www.aptnsw.org.au/sydtrans.html

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/transport-top-issue-for-sydneysiders/story-fn5ftg6s-1226307065151

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/city-held-back-by-avoid-complaints-at-all-costs-attitude-20100530-wnis.html

Look at all these Aussie liars - making up stories about Sydney's transport issues. Maybe they've not had the opportunity to chat to your mate in Manly...

[thelakelander]

Just trying to get a feel for interest, and if so to what degree of time commitment, cost, etc.
Also picked a few cities that vary in caliber and distance just to get an idea of what might ultimately be best to target.
Comment away if you have any preferences, thoughts, etc.
We can figure out dates in the future, but I know I can't possibly do this until after the new year.

Getting back to the original purpose of this thread, I can't do anything for the rest of this year since my schedule is pretty booked up, but I'm open to  doing something in 2016. A trip to a place like Savannah or Charleston can be easily put together over a weekend.  Same goes for places South of us like Miami (only cost $100 for direct flight from JAX to FTL) or Tampa (3-hour drive). Pittsburgh is a pretty interesting place too. It's a great walkable example of a city that's turned it's rust belt economy around. In fact, most of those rust belt cities (ex. Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Cleveland, etc.) are interesting. What cities have pretty cheap direct flights from Jax? 

I could do an international trip as well, however anything requiring me to take a week off from work is going to take an extra bit of planning and coordination.  I only get 3 weeks of PTO, so I tend to ration those days out around holidays and weekends. Anyway, all that to say, is I'm open to participating.

[Steve]

I think it might be pretty cool. I'd actually say something in the U.S. would be better, since in terms of learning from other cities it's more apples to apples as far as funding sources.