Times-Union endorses Lenny Curry

[Tacachale]

Life is much too short to accept mediocre results.

Better four years of mediocrity than eight.

The difference is that mediocrity is the worst case scenario for Curry, but it's the best case scenario for Brown. He'd have to step up to reach mediocrity considering how the last 4 years have gone.

[bill]

Curry however was much worse on the subject and pretended that he didn't know the gay people were discriminated against (despite being involved with several statewide groups whose mission is to discriminate against LGBT people)

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Who would that be, or are you just talking out of your ass as usual?

[Tacachale]

Life is much too short to accept mediocre results.

Better four years of mediocrity than eight.

The difference is that mediocrity is the worst case scenario for Curry, but it's the best case scenario for Brown. He'd have to step up to reach mediocrity considering how the last 4 years have gone.

No, eight years of austerity, a return to the corrupt developer driven planning schemes of the previous administration and missed opportunities are worse than mediocrity. Combine that with a man in a very powerful office known for vengeance, petty reprisals and deeply divisive policies and you have the makings of a real witches cauldron.

I don't know how any "austerity" measures may be implemented that would be perceptibly different or worse than what we're dealing with now. The budget is a nightmare, we can't maintain our infrastructure, and we can't fund basic services.

[simms3]

I'm going to have to agree with Tacachale and Fieldafm; I'm just glad I don't have to vote in that election because I couldn't stomach voting for a conservative, but I also can't stomach voting for someone with such obviously limited intellectual or decision-making capability for such a powerful/important position.  Brown never struck me as someone who is bona fide smart.  Like how is he mayor of a large city in the first place?  Curry doesn't seem brilliant or to have an intellectual curiosity, but he doesn't seem basic or dumb, and like Tacachale said, Brown actually has to step up just to be mediocre, and I don't know that he has even that in him.  Curry hasn't proven himself, but if he can't raise the bar up from that low level, then it can't possibly get any worse anyways.

On the issue of LGBT rights, which is important to me, neither candidate is good, at all.  You have a white republican conservative running against a socially conservative black man of faith (I guess both of faith).  Neither is a friend of the LGBT community, neither is standing up for basic human rights for all.  So what does it matter the party at that point?  You guys are in the South!!  And not Atlanta South, but Jacksonville South!  Sorry....I'd rather shoot myself in the face than go live in Jax as a gay man, but at least I can concern myself with all of the other issues that are important to me.

There are very few cities that mean enough to me for me to follow their mayoral races, Jax obvi being one, but I have never seen a city with such consistently pathetic candidates running/winning.  I blame perhaps a very mediocre citizenry?  Mediocrity begets mediocrity I suppose.

[finehoe]

On the issue of LGBT rights, which is important to me, neither candidate is good, at all.  You have a white republican conservative running against a socially conservative black man of faith (I guess both of faith).  Neither is a friend of the LGBT community, neither is standing up for basic human rights for all.  So what does it matter the party at that point?  You guys are in the South!!  And not Atlanta South, but Jacksonville South!  Sorry....I'd rather shoot myself in the face than go live in Jax as a gay man, but at least I can concern myself with all of the other issues that are important to me.

Just out of curiosity, are you still against same-sex marriage?

[simms3]

^^^???  Are you confusing me with someone else?

[finehoe]

^^^???  Are you confusing me with someone else?

I personally would rather be closeted than be associated with the gay community which is more than an embarassment!  If Crist is gay, it is none of our business until he has an adulterous affair and lies under oath, like Clinton, the former POTUS.  Gay rights is a joke, I myslef do not believe in gay marriage, and I am gay.  This is not because it would affect other people's marriages, but it would affect children.  I am for domestic partnerships with the same tax write offs as regular marriage.  To hear all of you guys get so upset (and the documentary) over gays who do not share the same view as the rest of the pack, you sound like black leaders who call conservative blacks Uncle Toms as if they cannot think for themselves.  I despise most gay people and the community, and I am at the point where I would remain closeted if it meant disassociation from that group, and whatever they are saying, I am going the opposite direction.  It is no wonder most people in this country are a little queasy about gays, look at us!

[simms3]

^^^Wow digging up a post from  6 years ago when I was still basically a teenager to demean me and make my views today somehow less credible.

-1000 because

a) that's super stalkerish (and you seriously keep tabs)

b) you discount growth people go through in their 20s and throughout their lives

c) you're discounting the fact that I'm at least openly gay, which is not something a lot of people in Jax are able to grapple with at any point in their lives

d) you're discounting that the gay community itself can have a diversity of people and a diversity of views at least as great as any other group of people.


This is frankly the most despicable thing I've seen directed at me on this site, ever.  I have no qualms and no regrets about anything I've done in my life, or any view I've held.  But continue to save away my posts for whenever you feel like trying to use them against me  

[finehoe]

Just out of curiosity, are you still against same-sex marriage?

So the answer is "no".  Thanks.  Just curious.

[mtraininjax]

-1000 because

a) that's super stalkerish (and you seriously keep tabs)

b) you discount growth people go through in their 20s and throughout their lives

c) you're discounting the fact that I'm at least openly gay, which is not something a lot of people in Jax are able to grapple with at any point in their lives

d) you're discounting that the gay community itself can have a diversity of people and a diversity of views at least as great as any other group of people.


This is frankly the most despicable thing I've seen directed at me on this site, ever.  I have no qualms and no regrets about anything I've done in my life, or any view I've held.  But continue to save away my posts for whenever you feel like trying to use them against me

It is how it is out here par for the course. I would look back and see if Hogan was ahead at this juncture 4 years ago, but why bother, when I know Diane is itching to search for the thread herself.

[strider]

Life is much too short to accept mediocre results.

Better four years of mediocrity than eight.

The difference is that mediocrity is the worst case scenario for Curry, but it's the best case scenario for Brown. He'd have to step up to reach mediocrity considering how the last 4 years have gone.

No, eight years of austerity, a return to the corrupt developer driven planning schemes of the previous administration and missed opportunities are worse than mediocrity. Combine that with a man in a very powerful office known for vengeance, petty reprisals and deeply divisive policies and you have the makings of a real witches cauldron.

I don't know how any "austerity" measures may be implemented that would be perceptibly different or worse than what we're dealing with now. The budget is a nightmare, we can't maintain our infrastructure, and we can't fund basic services.

I can't help but face palm every time I hear, "vote for Brown and it's only 4 years and vote for Curry and we will get eight".  It is a self-fulfilling prophecy proving that the incumbent can't be beat.  Anyone voting for or advocating for voting Brown for that reason, are proving themselves right and I believe at the city's expense.  We know what the next four years will bring us with Brown.  We do not know what the next four years will bring with Curry.  And if we don't like what he brings, we can vote him out. Change is often good and most often better than mediocre status-quot.

Hey, think Brown is the best choice?  Then vote for him.  But do not vote for him only because it is "only four more years".  Vote for who you think is the best choice at this point based on something real. No matter, what remember that in four years, we get to try again.

[simms3]

Just out of curiosity, are you still against same-sex marriage?

So the answer is "no".  Thanks.  Just curious.

Yes the answer is no.  By the way, I went to my first ever Pride in 2009.  It was a life changing experience for me.  Well, I take that back - I went to Madrid Pride in 2006, inadvertently, with a couple of girlfriends - I was not ready for that in my life at the time.  I wish I were as interested in knowing more about you as a person as you are apparently interested in me.  (this reeks of stereotypical "southern in everybody's business all the time") 

[mtraininjax]

But do not vote for him only because it is "only four more years".  Vote for who you think is the best choice at this point based on something real. No matter, what remember that in four years, we get to try again.

Good point, and those thinking Bishop is the one to vote for in 2019. I hope to God, we get a decent woman candidate for Mayor. Bishop only won 3 districts, Riverside and Avondale areas. Nothing else. With his no-support from the Republicans, who knows where or if he will get support.

[finehoe]

I wish I were as interested in knowing more about you as a person as you are apparently interested in me. 

LOL.  That's some ego you have there.  If you must know, I was searching for posts about Charlie Crist, and yours turned up.  But thanks for the entertaining hissy fit.

[Cheshire Cat]

-1000 because

a) that's super stalkerish (and you seriously keep tabs)

b) you discount growth people go through in their 20s and throughout their lives

c) you're discounting the fact that I'm at least openly gay, which is not something a lot of people in Jax are able to grapple with at any point in their lives

d) you're discounting that the gay community itself can have a diversity of people and a diversity of views at least as great as any other group of people.


This is frankly the most despicable thing I've seen directed at me on this site, ever.  I have no qualms and no regrets about anything I've done in my life, or any view I've held.  But continue to save away my posts for whenever you feel like trying to use them against me

It is how it is out here par for the course. I would look back and see if Hogan was ahead at this juncture 4 years ago, but why bother, when I know Diane is itching to search for the thread herself.

You would be wrong in that assumption.  lol   I am actually more "interested" to see where we are day by day this time around.