Balitmore Mom Slaps Fire Out of Rioting Son

[RattlerGator]

Taken out of context is something of an excuse her staff is using. She obviously mangled her sentence but even when taken most charitably, she still clearly was indicating that she had instructed the police over the weekend and into this week to give space to people who clearly had destruction on their minds.

Wrong, Madam Mayor. You give great deference to protesters. You don't give an inch to people bent on destruction.

The City of Baltimore incentivized these idiots, many from elsewhere -- including anarchists, to rampage. That cannot be defended.

I saw the mother just now on CBS This Morning. Kudos to her; she was very representative, in my mind, of the average black woman out there trying to handle her business and deal with the enormous peer pressure placed on young black males to act inappropriately. We in the black community have been failed MISERABLY by political leaders insisting we march in support of young men who have given in to the criminal element without any context or understanding of how that is warping and making far more difficult the job these mothers raising sons have to do.

Police misconduct has to be monitored, and bad cops must be held accountable. So, too, criminals. Taking a life can't be trivialized or addressed merely by paying some wrongful death money. But predators creating mayhem and stealing need to be identified unsparingly by their actions.

"Good intentions" have been killing the black community for decades. Enough already with the excuses. Enough!

[menace1069]

I was LMAO when I saw that video. That is what ALL of the parents need to be doing there. See your kid on TV acting the fool? Handle it immediately. I give her serious props.

[gerschea@gmail.com]

It makes for great video, and was also a very commendable thing to do, but for Gods sake people this lady is not a hero. She simply parented her kid like you would EXPECT someone to do. Praising this lady as a hero is doing nothing but setting the bar lower. "Congratulations on being a caring parent" (o yea, that's what your supposed to do)

[finehoe]

...many from elsewhere -- including anarchists...

What evidence is behind this statement?

[thelakelander]

Anarchists behind last year's violence in Ferguson are now active in Baltimore, claim social media experts

Social media experts say they have found a shocking connection between online traffic in downtown Baltimore on Monday and activity recorded during last year's violent protests in Ferguson, Missouri.
A leading data mining firm, which has asked to remain anonymous because of its government work, claims that between 20 and 50 social media accounts active in Baltimore on Monday were also used some 825 miles away in Ferguson during the peak of last summer's violence following the death of Michael Brown.

The firm said the link suggests the presence of 'professional protesters' or anarchists who are in Baltimore and are looking to take advantage of Freddie Gray's death to incite more violence.

Full article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3059840/Anarchists-year-s-violence-Ferguson-active-Baltimore-claim-social-media-experts.html

[RattlerGator]

You're reading that wrong, Stephen. Those accounts weren't simply discussing events in Ferguson; they were commenting FROM THAT DIRECT AREA and now they just happen to be in Baltimore. Okay? That's not a coincidence, and it needs to be discussed much more prominently.

[finehoe]

lol. so basically bs fantasizing on the part of the British press.

Looks like they got it from FOX:  http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/04/28/social-media-analysis-suggests-links-between-baltimore-and-ferguson-violence/

...according to a leading data mining firm that shared its findings exclusively with Fox News.

The firm, which asked to remain anonymous because of its government work...

Conveniently, they can't name the source.

[RattlerGator]

Conveniently, they can't name the source.

Do you honestly doubt this is the fact of the matter? That was not a Baltimore thing, that (the rampage, not the protests) was a manufactured event taking advantage of a legitimate outrage. Most people in Baltimore, including the confused mayor, have already figured this out. No need to hide behind your prejudice against Fox News.

The London Daily Mail is certainly conservative but it isn't a Fox News mouthpiece.

Is "The Guardian" sufficiently liberal for you -- they clearly reported on the local unease with these folks showing up and acting out in Ferguson, ready to helicopter out after finishing their carnage:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/ferguson-outsiders-protesters-riots-peaceful-unrest

A more appropriate question might be why the lack of curiosity about this from other media outlets? Surely it *is* newsworthy.

You think that widely circulated photo / video of the guy slashing the fire hose while the firemen are trying to put out a fire was just some local guy taking action? Wearing, reportedly, what many people are claiming is an East German era gas mask ? ? ? I don't think so.

[finehoe]

Is "The Guardian" sufficiently liberal for you -- they clearly reported on the local unease with these folks showing up and acting out in Ferguson, ready to helicopter out after finishing their carnage:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/ferguson-outsiders-protesters-riots-peaceful-unrest

"But the perception that they are among the visitors has shifted some scrutiny from police to the eclectic clusters of civil rights activists, anarchists, nihilists, socialists, hipsters, artists, Muslims, Christians and Buddhists."

The Guardian throws in everyone but the kitchen sink.  And they don't offer any evidence, either.  Note the word "perception".

[RattlerGator]

definitely more troubling that 300 police killings since january.

In a big ass country? Laughably inconsequential when Chicago alone, the President's home town, trumps that most every year.

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2014-chicago-murders

Just one town!

Don't play that game, Stephen. Police killings are infinitesimally small when compared to killings, period, in this country.

[RattlerGator]

The Guardian throws in everyone but the kitchen sink.  And they don't offer any evidence, either.  Note the word "perception".

I take it that you want the anarchists -- the ANARCHISTS -- to stand front and center screaming I am anarchist, hear me roar ! ? ! Then and only then might you consider their agitation ? ? ?

And Stephen, 100 people a month huh?

"Blacks accounted for 49% of all homicide victims in 2005, according to the FBI's UCR. Black males accounted for about 52% (or 6,800) of the nearly 13,000 male homicide victims in 2005. Black females made up 35% (or 1,200) of the nearly 3,500 female homicide victims."

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

That's 16,500 total homicide victims. Approximately 93% of whom were killed by someone from their own race. Although many on the left are loath to admit this, American murders have been dropping since the early 1990s. Parse out your numbers (100 a month is probably on the very high end but what the hell, go with it), and when you contemplate mathematical certainties -- policing is a dangerous line of work, dealing with unpredictable and unruly people regularly, "X" number of confrontations are certain to result in death -- and 100 killings a month don't shock me in the slightest.

We have a problem these days making a desire for perfect policing the enemy of good policing. That foolishness has to stop. Monitor them closely, yes. Make them be accountable, yes. Seek to regularly increase their professionalism, yes. But this disrespect and general craziness has to stop.

It would be nice, not to mention incredibly helpful, if an honest conversation could be had about the effect of unions (and partisan, Democrat Party politics) on protecting bad police officers. And bad police practices. The most problematic police departments protecting some of the sorriest bad apples in the ranks are in our large, urban cities, controlled for years and years by Democrats. Like Baltimore:

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/29/david-simon-on-baltimore-s-anguish?ref=tsfb

And Martin O'Malley, of all people, may be the Democrats best choice for President -- okay?

Our most pressing problem, Stephen, simply isn't cops killing unarmed black men. That's nonsense, and a very real attempt to dodge the very obvious failure of 50 solid years of well-intentioned programs that didn't do a damn thing (positive) for the inner city, in general, or the black community, in particular.

Just give up the ghost, man. Give it up.

[bill]

definitely more troubling that 300 police killings since january.

In a big ass country? Laughably inconsequential when Chicago alone, the President's home town, trumps that most every year.

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2014-chicago-murders

Just one town!

Don't play that game, Stephen. Police killings are infinitesimally small when compared to killings, period, in this country.

but a few protestors are 'troubling'?

hmm.  sounds like a double standard you've got going there, Rattler.

300 killing in four months is statistically unimportant, but one riot in fifty years is paramount.

I suppose that any other large group of people that killed a hundred people a month (roughly) would also fail to register on your list of things to be alarmed about?

is that your professional opinion or is that actually backed up by any sources or documentation?

[Coolyfett]

Balitmore Mom Slaps Fire Out of Rioting Son



Just a reminder that no matter how clearly lines seem to be drawn, people are still human beings (and occasionally have to answer to their furious moms) See the amazing (and kind of hilarious) video after the jump.

Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-balitmore-mom-slaps-fire-out-of-rioting-son

i DONT find the video funny after reading she HAS 6 children with holes in her jeans. Kids from GOOD Mothers would not even have been out there, much less needing to be pulled away. America just enjoys watching black women go nuts. Im tired of this.

[menace1069]

Balitmore Mom Slaps Fire Out of Rioting Son



Just a reminder that no matter how clearly lines seem to be drawn, people are still human beings (and occasionally have to answer to their furious moms) See the amazing (and kind of hilarious) video after the jump.

Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-balitmore-mom-slaps-fire-out-of-rioting-son

i DONT find the video funny after reading she HAS 6 children with holes in her jeans. Kids from GOOD Mothers would not even have been out there, much less needing to be pulled away. America just enjoys watching black women go nuts. Im tired of this.

Six kids, eight kids, twelve kids...doesn't matter. The fact that she went out there and got him and took some responsibility does. I am not saying she's a hero and you're right...that kid should have never been out there. But kids are kids, they defy their parents...and it's good to see that when she saw him, she took parental action and I applaud her for that.

That is all.

[finehoe]

Baltimore's "Hero Mom" has a name. It's Toya Graham.

And the woman lionized nationwide for beating her 16-year-old son on camera, and dragging him away from Monday night's riots, doesn't feel at all like a hero.

"I don't. I don't," Graham told CBS "This Morning" on Wednesday. "My intention was just to get my son and have him be safe." Later in the interview, Graham confesses, "I just lost it." (Watch the whole thing at the end of this post.)

Her moment of losing it made her a hero to much of white America – and not just to the right. Coast to coast, the media is hyping Graham as "Hero Mom" and her on-camera beating as "Tough Love." It's not just Fox News or the "New York Post," whose tabloid "Send in the Moms" front page this time reflects rather than rebukes the mainstream media. And that's heartbreaking.

The debate over the moment Graham says she "lost it" is complex. There's a parallel black debate going on that, as always when it comes to racial issues, is richer and more nuanced. But anyone white who's applauding Graham's moment of desperation, along with the white media figures who are hyping her "heroism," is essentially justifying police brutality, and saying the only way to control black kids is to beat the shit out of them.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/29/the_hideous_white_hypocrisy_behind_the_baltimore_%E2%80%9Chero_mom%E2%80%9D_hype_how_clueless_media_applause_excuses_police_brutality/