Khan's Jacksonville Shipyards Plans Revealed

Started by Metro Jacksonville, February 17, 2015, 01:10:01 PM

finehoe

Quote from: KenFSU on December 07, 2016, 03:19:15 PM
I believe the old Courthouse may be demo'd early next year, in tandem with the demo work at Coastline/Liberty.

I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this... but if history is any guide, there's a distinct possibility that after the demo, there'll just be yet another empty lot for who knows how long.

KenFSU

The single biggest RFP in city history - 70 acres on the river, inclusive of Shipyards and Metro Park - goes live in an hour:

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2017/01/04/want-to-develop-the-shipyards-and-metropolitan.html

Buckle up, buckaroos.


Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: KenFSU on January 04, 2017, 10:58:45 PM
The single biggest RFP in city history - 70 acres on the river, inclusive of Shipyards and Metro Park - goes live in an hour:

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2017/01/04/want-to-develop-the-shipyards-and-metropolitan.html

Buckle up, buckaroos.

I'm sensing something special about to happen...

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aldermanparklover

We're new to the area and we'd love downtown to be as great as the big cities we originally are from.

Question: Is Jacksonville getting a deep water port upgrade and if not, what exactly will the new shipyards be used for?

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 16, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
We're new to the area and we'd love downtown to be as great as the big cities we originally are from.

Question: Is Jacksonville getting a deep water port upgrade and if not, what exactly will the new shipyards be used for?

ProTip - When you're this late to the party, try reading the whole thread before making an asinine comment based off of your misunderstanding of the title.  Context is your friend here.  (Quite possibly your only one...)
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Know Growth

Quote from: KenFSU on January 04, 2017, 10:58:45 PM
The single biggest RFP in city history - 70 acres on the river, inclusive of Shipyards and Metro Park - goes live in an hour:

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2017/01/04/want-to-develop-the-shipyards-and-metropolitan.html

Buckle up, buckaroos.

Yea ,Public Land scenarios soon to go to Private
8)

aldermanparklover

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on January 16, 2017, 09:34:53 PM
Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 16, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
We're new to the area and we'd love downtown to be as great as the big cities we originally are from.

Question: Is Jacksonville getting a deep water port upgrade and if not, what exactly will the new shipyards be used for?

ProTip - When you're this late to the party, try reading the whole thread before making an asinine comment based off of your misunderstanding of the title.  Context is your friend here.  (Quite possibly your only one...)

Yeah well I'm not reading 47 pages of thread to get an answer to a simple question if I can help it - I did a quick google search and nothing solid yielded so I figured it would be quicker to ask - assuming the people here are friendly and helpful "neighbors"

you however make me think not buying in westside was a good idea

thelakelander

Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 16, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
We're new to the area and we'd love downtown to be as great as the big cities we originally are from.

Question: Is Jacksonville getting a deep water port upgrade and if not, what exactly will the new shipyards be used for?

Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 17, 2017, 01:43:27 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on January 16, 2017, 09:34:53 PM
Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 16, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
We're new to the area and we'd love downtown to be as great as the big cities we originally are from.

Question: Is Jacksonville getting a deep water port upgrade and if not, what exactly will the new shipyards be used for?

ProTip - When you're this late to the party, try reading the whole thread before making an asinine comment based off of your misunderstanding of the title.  Context is your friend here.  (Quite possibly your only one...)

Yeah well I'm not reading 47 pages of thread to get an answer to a simple question if I can help it - I did a quick google search and nothing solid yielded so I figured it would be quicker to ask - assuming the people here are friendly and helpful "neighbors"

you however make me think not buying in westside was a good idea

Lol, the first post on page 1 of this thread will provide you with the quickest answer to your question. It even comes with a rendering for those who don't feel like reading.
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Fallen Buckeye

Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 16, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
We're new to the area and we'd love downtown to be as great as the big cities we originally are from.

Question: Is Jacksonville getting a deep water port upgrade and if not, what exactly will the new shipyards be used for?
Don't worry. There are plenty of friendly people in Jacksonville.  :)

In a nutshell, Jacksonville in the process of trying to redevelop the site of the former downtown shipyards. It has sat empty for decades, and  it has seen several redevelopment plans come and go with no progress. The owner of the Jaguars has had an interest in the site because of its proximity to the stadium, but now they are considering also including an existing public park that is adjacent to both the former Shipyards and the stadium.

The deepening of the port has more to do with other shipping terminals along the river because the shipyards is about commercial and residential types of uses.

Welcome to Jacksonville.

RattlerGator

Good response, Fallen Buckeye.

Damn. You get a new reader . . . and it's slap city. Greater effort could have been made but . . . damn.

Snaketoz

#685
Thank you Fallen Buckeye. If you don't like someone's posts, why not just ignore it?  Thanks also to NRW for removing all doubt that a "Non-Redneck Westsider" is an oxymoron.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Snaketoz on January 17, 2017, 08:19:09 AM
Thank you Fallen Buckeye. If you don't like someone's posts, why not just ignore it?  Thanks also to MMR for removing all doubt that a "Non-Redneck Westsider" is an oxymoron.

I think you meant NRW...  but hey, I've been wrong before.

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Snaketoz

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on January 17, 2017, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: Snaketoz on January 17, 2017, 08:19:09 AM
Thank you Fallen Buckeye. If you don't like someone's posts, why not just ignore it?  Thanks also to MMR for removing all doubt that a "Non-Redneck Westsider" is an oxymoron.

I think you meant NRW...  but hey, I've been wrong before.
Thank you.  I've corrected that.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

KenFSU

Quote from: Fallen Buckeye on January 17, 2017, 07:18:11 AM
In a nutshell, Jacksonville in the process of trying to redevelop the site of the former downtown shipyards. It has sat empty for decades, and  it has seen several redevelopment plans come and go with no progress. The owner of the Jaguars has had an interest in the site because of its proximity to the stadium, but now they are considering also including an existing public park that is adjacent to both the former Shipyards and the stadium.

The only other thing worth noting is that the primary reason that the Shipyards has sat empty for decades is that the property is heavily contaminated and unfit for most types of development in its current state. Cost of full cleanup is expected to exceed $30 million. Portions of the property can probably be used as parkspace though with the existing environmental cap that is already in place. For this reason, the latest RFP for the property includes Metropolitan Park next door as well, with the idea being that the master developer chosen (likely Jaguars' own Shad Khan if the last RFP is any indication) can essentially move Metro Park to a portion of the contaminated land, and develop the existing Metro Park site, which is clean. This could potentially save millions of dollars in remediation costs, and allow for development immediately adjacent to new construction at Everbank Field (the amphitheater and covered flex space). A hotel with convention space has been the most talked about use for the Met Park space. To further open up the Shipyards and Sports Complex to the river, the mayor is petitioning the state for up funding to remove the ramps along that corridor. Plan B is a pedestrian overpass that connects the south end of the stadium complex to Metropolitan Park. A winner should be selected in March, and any development will be contingent of the federal government approving the land swap between the Shipyards and Metro Park (which shouldn't be an issue if a reasonable attempt is made at making the exchange in-kind). 


aldermanparklover

Quote from: Fallen Buckeye on January 17, 2017, 07:18:11 AM
Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 16, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
We're new to the area and we'd love downtown to be as great as the big cities we originally are from.

Question: Is Jacksonville getting a deep water port upgrade and if not, what exactly will the new shipyards be used for?
Don't worry. There are plenty of friendly people in Jacksonville.  :)

In a nutshell, Jacksonville in the process of trying to redevelop the site of the former downtown shipyards. It has sat empty for decades, and  it has seen several redevelopment plans come and go with no progress. The owner of the Jaguars has had an interest in the site because of its proximity to the stadium, but now they are considering also including an existing public park that is adjacent to both the former Shipyards and the stadium.

The deepening of the port has more to do with other shipping terminals along the river because the shipyards is about commercial and residential types of uses.

Welcome to Jacksonville.

Thanks for the assist - so Shipyards is just a legacy name and they won't be actively used as shipyards? I saw the drawings and it looked like boat slips but everyone keeps saying shipyards.