Obama's Socialist Policies are Ruining American Economy

Started by finehoe, November 26, 2014, 09:23:08 AM

InnerCityPressure

Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 26, 2017, 12:21:00 PM
Trump is in office 3.5days; employers are coming back to America thanks to Trump's leadership, the Dow has set a new record and 8 years after obummer, you guys are still clueless about what it takes to make a dollar - not earn a dollar by clocking in, but actually make a dollar out of thin air.

This is why college professors and community organizers should NEVER be at the wheel of the (now) second largest economy in the world, thank you very much obummer.


here's just the latest example of how people in power with no understanding of business and making money are screwing things up ...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/10/minimum-wage-hikes-putting-restaurants-out-of-busi/


This is going great!  Good thing our government is just here to make money for investors and not, you know, take care of the health and well-being of the greater populace.

strider

The unspoken truth is that we produce more in this country than ever before.  Manufacturing has actually been increasing even over the last 8 years.  The problem is, Americans still are not getting those jobs, robots are.  Why should a company pay an unskilled worker 30K plus a year to put in a few screws when a 15K purchase plus 5K a year Robot will do it without sick days, without complaining nor asking for a raise. So we end up with a net loss on jobs even if companies stay rather than go elsewhere. And no one also talks about how the proposed higher tariffs will effect trade related jobs.  TV's could be made here but the net job effect could be negative and the average American worker may not be able to afford them and the other countries won't buy them.  The entire global trade tings is not as easy as some would like it to be and fixing our job issues will not be done over night. Nor by bullying companies into thinks. Frankly, I suspect the entire Trump bring back jobs thing is a scam to increase Corporate profits and will in the end do little to bring back those high paying manufacturing jobs.
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

acme54321

#77
Manufacturing goes overseas for two main concerns, labor and environmental.  Most everything else makes more sense to keep domestic.  Lots (most) of the paper and plastic consumables you use everyday are made here.  Factory automation is a big time business.

strider

Quote from: jlmann on January 26, 2017, 01:53:09 PM
QuoteWhy should a company pay an unskilled worker 30K plus a year to put in a few screws

exactly.  the rust belt etc needs the same advice as APL.  Get your butt to a community college and learn something useful to the world in 2017.

Actually, college is not for everyone.  Nor should it be.  However, there are skilled trades out there that actually need people and many of those jobs pay as well as those with that college degree...sometimes more. However, I do consider that type of training needed to run and maintain those robots to be trade level and perhaps they are not.
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

aldermanparklover

Quote from: strider on January 26, 2017, 05:47:30 PM
Quote from: jlmann on January 26, 2017, 01:53:09 PM
QuoteWhy should a company pay an unskilled worker 30K plus a year to put in a few screws

exactly.  the rust belt etc needs the same advice as APL.  Get your butt to a community college and learn something useful to the world in 2017.

Actually, college is not for everyone.  Nor should it be.  However, there are skilled trades out there that actually need people and many of those jobs pay as well as those with that college degree...sometimes more. However, I do consider that type of training needed to run and maintain those robots to be trade level and perhaps they are not.

+1

machinists are in short supply. masons are in short supply. welding has been in such short supply, they been designing welding machines that automatically adjust for metal thickness and type so welders don't have to be as skilled about metallurgy to use them (they just want a warm body with a steady hand anymore) - the list goes on and on.

instead all libs insist you have to do 4 years of college regardless the fact 80% of graduates don't use their degree for the specialty they learned. They're waiting tables or slinging drinks with $60k+ in student loan debt hanging over their heads while contemplating what to go back to college for so they can get finally into field they'll like as a career since the first one didn't work out = notso smart

The colleges aren't complaining tho.


strider

Quote from: aldermanparklover on January 26, 2017, 08:04:43 PM
Quote from: strider on January 26, 2017, 05:47:30 PM
Quote from: jlmann on January 26, 2017, 01:53:09 PM
QuoteWhy should a company pay an unskilled worker 30K plus a year to put in a few screws

exactly.  the rust belt etc needs the same advice as APL.  Get your butt to a community college and learn something useful to the world in 2017.

Actually, college is not for everyone.  Nor should it be.  However, there are skilled trades out there that actually need people and many of those jobs pay as well as those with that college degree...sometimes more. However, I do consider that type of training needed to run and maintain those robots to be trade level and perhaps they are not.

+1

machinists are in short supply. masons are in short supply. welding has been in such short supply, they been designing welding machines that automatically adjust for metal thickness and type so welders don't have to be as skilled about metallurgy to use them (they just want a warm body with a steady hand anymore) - the list goes on and on.

instead all libs insist you have to do 4 years of college regardless the fact 80% of graduates don't use their degree for the specialty they learned. They're waiting tables or slinging drinks with $60k+ in student loan debt hanging over their heads while contemplating what to go back to college for so they can get finally into field they'll like as a career since the first one didn't work out = notso smart

The colleges aren't complaining tho.

Nice that you agree with me.  I'm a Liberal by the way...just sayin'....
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

finehoe

I suspect that the Republican dominated Congress will do their best to ruin the economy.  I do wonder how much Trump will fall into line, or pursue his own instincts and legacy.