Bogota's transit system not so good for women

Started by ProjectMaximus, November 02, 2014, 02:07:43 AM


IrvAdams

^^wow, I can't get over the picture of people riding on top of a commuter train in Indonesia. Just getting local people inside the People Mover is tough enough. :)
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Charles Hunter


ProjectMaximus

Quote from: IrvAdams on November 02, 2014, 08:15:12 AM
^^wow, I can't get over the picture of people riding on top of a commuter train in Indonesia. Just getting local people inside the People Mover is tough enough. :)

Check out YouTube videos...it's insane. I'll post a link when I leave China tomorrow. If you've ever heard about driving in Jakarta then it's not so shocking tho

Ocklawaha

The short answer is 'BULL SHIT!' Other answers are found in the perception of life in other countries when held up to the light of the United States, Denver, Dallas, New York, Seattle...etc. There is also the perception (getting a lot of ink lately) that ANYONE that comments, or dares to say hello, or my usual 'Good Morning Sunshine,' has stepped over some feminine  border and is paramount to a Nazi. So let me tackle this from a Colombian-American point of view.

QuoteA survey of some of the world's biggest cities has found that public transportation is most dangerous for women in three Latin American capitals.

Most American's don't speak Spanish, South and Central America do (for the most part) and out of any 100 American TV shows on Latin America, at least 75% of them are based on a murder, rape, torture, insurgents, etc.. The facts of life in South America are quite different, NOBODY would live there if everything was that out of control. To this day when I say I've lived in Medellin, about half of the people comment; "Weren't you afraid, isn't that the Worlds Most Dangerous City, Did you ever see any of the __________ ." Really pretty sad as it exposes our own ignorance of other cultures. Did I ever hear of American's being killed while I was in Colombia? Oh yeah, like when we hear a report; "The bodies of 3 Colombian men and a woman were found on Billy's Island in the Okefenokee..." DUH! In short, go looking for trouble ANYWHERE and you can find it.

QuoteThe poll by YouGov and The Thomson Reuters Foundation asked over 6,550 women and gender experts about their perceptions of safety for women in the city's transport system. The survey was conducted in 15 out of the 20 largest world's largest capitals, as well as New York, the biggest city in the U.S.

Next? The whole article is suspect on the basis of 1. Huffington Post, 2. Yougov, two of the mouthpieces for the far left and political correctness crap. The Thomson Reuters Foundation is out seeking 'male devils' which I'm absolutely certain are members of the Nazi-Republican War On Women Death Squads. In my opinion and the opinion of most men or women south of the border, these people represent a waste of perfectly good oxygen!

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Survey results, released Wednesday, found women feel least safe traveling on public trains and buses in the capitals of Colombia, Mexico and Peru. In Mexico City, 64 percent of women surveyed said they had been physically harassed while using public transport. New York was ranked highest for safety on public transport.

What women? Colombian women? Mexican women? Peruvian women? Or perhaps, '¿las mujeres norteamericanas paranoicas?' In Latin American culture, to pass a pretty woman and NOT say; 'Hola muñeca!' IS RUDE!  (Even though this translates literally as 'Hello Doll,' it certainly doesn't carry that ugliness in Spanish). If a Colombian woman goes shopping and nobody greets her like that, she is likely going home in tears, or looking for a makeover. I didn't make these rules, but that is how it works. The only complaints I ever heard in South America about the Bogota's TransMilenio Bus System, is that it is over crowded and dirty (and even dirty needs to be explained, the stations, platforms and bus interiors are always cleaner then our own Skyway, but the exhaust from literally hundreds of buses spews black carbon soot on everything they pass. None of this has anything to do with 'safety' it's all about perception.

QuoteBeyond the immediate dangers, if women don't feel secure to travel to school or get to work, they are less likely to realize their earning potential, experts say. This can "seriously jeopardize" women's role in the wider economy, warns a United Nations report on gender and urban life.

Now this is politically correct psyco-babble; FACT: Latin men are full of machismo and bravado, women are sweet and spend much of their time in trying to be the sexiest, in order to catch and keep the most macho. These people are not going to change for some crazy 'Yankee ideal.' They also would blow away the idea that a woman is the equal to a man, though we might know differently, they won't... EVER. Make as much as a man? Not highly likely, though I will say that many of the younger university educated female population are doing quite well for themselves, just don't forget to say;
"Buenos días, hermosa!"