Yahoo: Best seats at NFL game might be poolside in Jacksonville

[duvaldude08]

^^^Well said. You can add Cincinnati to that list of underachieving fanbases despite winning. One of the Bengals players even called the fanbase out basically.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/07/bengals-george-iloka-we-dont-want-bandwagon-fans/

Yeah, they have a sad fan base. We would have a sold out stadium every game if the Jags were in the play offs every year. We been in the cellaur for years now and we still show up.

[finehoe]

I think the Clevelqnder Deck is trying to equate Jax more with Florida instead of Georgia.  I, for one, am quite ok with that.

You may well be right.  I just think that such a plan would work better with a name that most people actually associate with FL as opposed to OH.

But it is what it is.  Like was said above, they aren't going to change it, so I wish them success.

[KenFSU]

^^^Well said. You can add Cincinnati to that list of underachieving fanbases despite winning. One of the Bengals players even called the fanbase out basically.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/07/bengals-george-iloka-we-dont-want-bandwagon-fans

Tony Romo called out Cowboys fans too recently after Texans fans flooded Cowboy Stadium.

I love me my football, but I've got zero patience or sympathy for millionaire athletes criticizing mostly working class locals for not paying $80 a ticket on average, plus parking, plus concessions, to watch them play on Sundays.

I do my job just fine without 75,000 people crowding into my office and clapping while I post on MetroJax complete important projects.

If seats aren't being filled in Cincy, the Bengals front office isn't doing its job.

[edjax]

I think the Clevelqnder Deck is trying to equate Jax more with Florida instead of Georgia.  I, for one, am quite ok with that.

You may well be right.  I just think that such a plan would work better with a name that most people actually associate with FL as opposed to OH.

But it is what it is.  Like was said above, they aren't going to change it, so I wish them success.

It could very well change.  I think I read they only have a one year contract with the Clevelander.

[Wacca Pilatka]

Pretty sure that's right about the one-year deal.

[Know Growth]

Latitude 30 should have jumped all over those naming rights.

you mean Latitude 360

I completely understand why the Jags partnered with the Clevelander....they are trying to get some of that south Florida swankiness/sex appeal associated with Jax.

I'd rather jump in a pool at the tail end of the Football season in Miami- two weather zones separated from J Ville.
And bonus South Florida beach,clear and decidedly warmer water bonus. Been there and done that- my Native Childhood habitat.Back then,we just Knew we were superior to Jacksonville.Even if the NFL Dolphins were not always Wonderful. At least Dophins were in our real life there in Miami.As in fact,they are here,right there in the River,amidst the Score Board light reflection arching all the way over the River,over the backs of Jacksonville Real Dolphins and other River features,recreation activities occurring always,as if the NFL did not ever even exist.

Gosh,what two weather Zones can drive....

The best "Seats" are away from Stadium, for most,and the NFL Knows It.
I know of well heeled area Loyal Jaguar Fans who opt to watch the Game on their (multiple) BIG screen,amidst the comfort of residence,pool,outside kitchen.

A Super Bowl game Jacksonville would certainly bring throngs to the stadium,as before.

[mtraininjax]

Mtraininjax.... 7 of 11 starting players on offense are rookies this year... If Storm Johnson ends up starting it'll be 8 of 11. The new front office is completely cleaning house and building from the ground up. Wins will come with more experience. To say the team isn't already showing drastic improvement over week 1 would be completely ignorant. There is merit to your comment that wins put butts in seats, but we're at least heading in the right direction this season.

Check the thread title, this is all about the side show circus going on with pools, strippers, and events put on by a Miami side-show circus group.

Funny how no one out here points out the cost to taxpayers for these lovely pools, 1.3 million is how much they cost us in NEW additional temporary seating to accomodate the Florida/Georgia game. Where is Mayor Brown and the TV crews on this one? Someone should get royally fired in the mayor's office for this slight oversight.

The Clevelander deck might be annoying to some, but it's boosting the bottom line, squeezing dollars out of an area that used to produce dimes, and ultimately helping to provide long-term sustainability to the Jaguars franchise in Jacksonville. I'll take that tradeoff, even if it means a goofy DJ occasionally saying stupid stuff.

Whoa? How many games were blacked out last season at home without a DJ, strippers and pools? ZERO! The pools and circus are not needed when you are winning, this shows me that Khan and Lamping don't see us doing that for a while, get ready for more side-show circus stuff to help get more people out of their homes to the stadium.

Love the Weavers... but a lot of the things that Khan and Lamping are doing now are things that that Weaver should have been doing at least a decade ago, particularly in regards to regional marketing and game-day experience. That's what I like about the new ownership. They are proactive, rather than reactive.

Marketing and creating a side-show for the freaks are 2 very different entities. Weaver did market to the other areas, but the effectiveness is seen in the number of people still remaining after Khan took over. Lamping does a much better job of marketing to corporations, who are the ones who now own a majority of the seats, hence no blackouts. The NFL is not a cheap ticket for the individual, I am sure duvaldude has a thread on that somewhere else, so no need to HIJACK another thread with more NFL drivel.

Amen Maximus-people have to understand that the business side is completely separate, and Lamping's side is responsible for bringing in butts in the seats (or pool or barstool)

Again, no blackouts last year, so this year we should paint the town as "redneck circus freaks"? Nice!

Lamping has nothing to do with the on-field production. That''s up to Caldwell and Bradley.

Not true, every person employed by the Jaguars, the team, leaders, everyone to the sideline crew are responsible for the team, its image and the fanbase. The Jaguar scouts help sell tickets, everyone is accountable. You think that only the people who get the glory are the ones in charge? LOL!

so there have to be ways to sustain without winning.

A freak show with strippers and pools and circus clowns is the best you can come up with? Nice.

mtraininjax, you're only acknowledging one part of the problem equation -- winning. That, alone, doesn't solve the problem of a small-market team in the NFL........

That is complete and utter hogwash. No blackouts last season and we went, what 0-8 in the first half of the season. The fact that we are a small-market team is such a tired argument. The seats belong to corporations, its the same formula they use in MLB, as there are 81 games in each stadium, you think the average person can afford to pay for 81 games AND the concessions over a season and salaries for millionaire babies? Nope Pro sports have gone the way of corporations, naming rights, in Atlanta the Club section of the stadium is the Verizon Club. The pro sports marketing people would sell their families if it brought in more revenue for the teams. The eve of a new circus is upon us and we will never be the same for it.

[duvalbill]

No blackouts =/= a sellout, which is what the team is going for.

You've come to some incredibly asinine conclusions too - namely:

"The pools and circus are not needed when you are winning, this shows me that Khan and Lamping don't see us doing that for a while, get ready for more side-show circus stuff to help get more people out of their homes to the stadium."

Caldwell works on the roster and Lamping has a totally separate job.   What you consider a "freak show," interests a lot of other people, which is what Lamping was seemingly going for.  The diehards will be there regardless of the pools or stadium extras and Lamping is trying to draw from a more indifferent crowd.  The roster was in shambles when Caldwell took over, and it was known that it would be a 3-4 year job to turn it around (only in year 2 now).  Lamping is trying to be more progressive than his predecessors and whether the upgrades appeal to you or not, they've already proven to be quite popular.

As it pertains to ticket prices, Jacksonville still has one of the lowest in the league.  There are affordable seats to watch the game. 

Your post just reeks of sour grapes, and if it bothers you so much, don't go and don't watch.  It's pretty simple.

[fsquid]

The best "Seats" are away from Stadium, for most,and the NFL Knows It.
I know of well heeled area Loyal Jaguar Fans who opt to watch the Game on their (multiple) BIG screen,amidst the comfort of residence,pool,outside kitchen.

very true, especially here where many have a TV in their outside area.

[I-10east]

No blackouts =/= a sellout, which is what the team is going for.

The FCC dumped the blackout rule. I get what you're saying though.

[duvaldude08]

No blackouts =/= a sellout, which is what the team is going for.

The FCC dumped the blackout rule. I get what you're saying though.

The NFL has not change their policy yet though. The NFL actually has not said anything as of yet.

[I-10east]

^^^My bad, you're right. That would be messed up if the NFL do not let the blackout rule become defunct.   

[WarDamJagFan]

I had the pleasure of sitting in one of the pool cabanas for the Colts game with 100 close friends. I have never, ever, had that much fun in my entire life at a football game and every single person in our group claims the same. This is truly the most unique gameday experience any NFL fan can have and the article by Yahoo was excellent. The Jags have purged the cancer that was the Gene Smith experiment, and are moving forward to brighter days.

[tufsu1]

I had the pleasure of sitting in one of the pool cabanas for the Colts game with 100 close friends. I have never, ever, had that much fun in my entire life at a football game and every single person in our group claims the same. This is truly the most unique gameday experience any NFL fan can have and the article by Yahoo was excellent. The Jags have purged the cancer that was the Gene Smith experiment, and are moving forward to brighter days.

interesting...I wasn't aware that 100 people were allowed in the pool cabanas...I heard it was more like 12-15 per cabana

[edjax]

I had the pleasure of sitting in one of the pool cabanas for the Colts game with 100 close friends. I have never, ever, had that much fun in my entire life at a football game and every single person in our group claims the same. This is truly the most unique gameday experience any NFL fan can have and the article by Yahoo was excellent. The Jags have purged the cancer that was the Gene Smith experiment, and are moving forward to brighter days.

interesting...I wasn't aware that 100 people were allowed in the pool cabanas...I heard it was more like 12-15 per cabana

Upper cabanas up to 20 per cabana.  Pool cabanas up to 50 per cabana and there are 4 of them so up to 200 for the pool cabanas.