Intuition Ale Works Moving Downtown

[jaxlore]

Both Intuition and Bold City brought people to an area of Riverside that was hardly considered a hot spot. I remember hearing folks at my office talk about going there after work that rarely set foot in Riverside. So I think they will do the same at their downtown location. They will be great ambassadors to that area of Bay Street.

[JeffreyS]

I love it and want it open yesterday.

[PeeJayEss]

Intuition relying on foot traffic? I think not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SB16il97yw&t=0m17s

https://www.youtube.com/v/7SB16il97yw

[jaxjaguar]

Hopefully they extend the trolley down there!

[finehoe]

...the vast nothingness in-between that building & the Landing.

Who cares about the Landing?  It's only about a half-mile to other venues on Bay Street across from the old Courthouse. 

[Tacachale]

The current location is .3 miles from the nearest other spot, Kickbacks. Few people are walking or even biking up there now, and it was even fewer when the place opened in 2010 (and even fewer than that when Bold City opened in 2008). The new location is half a mile to the Bay Street bars along a major street, and in a central location that's easier to access for people from San Marco, Springfield, Arlington, SS, and most of town, really. They'll do just fine.

[downtownbrown]

...the vast nothingness in-between that building & the Landing.

Who cares about the Landing?  It's only about a half-mile to other venues on Bay Street across from the old Courthouse.

Anyone know when Lavernius Cole is opening his place on Bay? The new pub on the corner of Bay and Liberty won't be open long, I'm guessing.

[jaxjaguar]

Lack of business for the pub or what to prevent them from staying open? I peeked in there when they were first opening and it looked 1/2 finished still. Looked a little too grungy / Insane Clown Posse crowd for me.

[tufsu1]

Lack of business for the pub or what to prevent them from staying open? I peeked in there when they were first opening and it looked 1/2 finished still. Looked a little too grungy / Insane Clown Posse crowd for me.

$4 large glasses of Tucher....that's all you need to know!

[urbanlibertarian]

I've been in the Hourglass Pub a few times.  I think they're doing ok so far.  I also think Intuition will do fine and probably help City Hall Pub do better.

[JayBird]

I think that some people here don't understand the business model of Intution. They are a manufacturer of craft beer first, a bar second. They could build out on Lannie Road and their model and income wouldn't change.  This is actually the owners "taking one for the team" because they easily could've relocated anywhere on the westside, southside or beaches but instead chose to try to help the local community at large. I'm impressed and respect their management the more because of it. They will provide a catalyst in 2 years that City Council/Mayor have been failing to understand for decades.

I've been in the Hourglass Pub a few times.  I think they're doing ok so far.  I also think Intuition will do fine and probably help City Hall Pub do better.

Technically its now called Jacksonville Sports Tavern. Changed names after Ron Sholes brought in new management because the Giants and his other businesses were taking his time away from City Hall Pub.

[river4340]

I think that some people here don't understand the business model of Intution. They are a manufacturer of craft beer first, a bar second. They could build out on Lannie Road and their model and income wouldn't change.  This is actually the owners "taking one for the team" because they easily could've relocated anywhere on the westside, southside or beaches but instead chose to try to help the local community at large. I'm impressed and respect their management the more because of it. They will provide a catalyst in 2 years that City Council/Mayor have been failing to understand for decades.

Don't underestimate the income from the tap room. Selling the beer for $5 a pint vs. selling it wholesale by the keg.

[5pointy]

Hopefully they extend the trolley down there!

YES! After a trip to the tap room, we don't need to be driving much anyway:)

[CCMjax]

If the elevated highway was demolished all the way to the stadium so it was just an off/on ramp to bay street it would open up so much valuable real estate in that area.  I think that is one of the keys for continued progress in the sports complex/shipyards area. 

[peestandingup]

...the vast nothingness in-between that building & the Landing.

Who cares about the Landing?  It's only about a half-mile to other venues on Bay Street across from the old Courthouse.

Because like it or not, thats the major central part of downtown with all the businesses there, around Laura, the Riverwalk, Skyway, etc. Or did you just wanna rely on the bleed over (IE scraps) of the mostly weekend late-night bar crowds on Bay?

And have you ever walked that half mile in between those bars & the stadium complexes? Its not pleasant (and that's using kind wording). I don't imagine many people doing it just to go to a tap-room when there's other options around them that doesn't require walking through urban desert.

Like I said, I hope it does well & is able to draw people in, but I'd just feel better if that stretch in between didn't suck & there was activity there. This has been a sore spot in downtown for years & its just now getting some traction going. Yes, the Riverside location wasn't a pleasant walk either from the major areas on King & Post, but at least it was IN Riverside where people actually live, tons of other businesses, etc whether they were walking or driving, it was there. Right there.

People are already in Riverside, all day every day. Downtown? Not so much. Hope it changes, but thats where we're at now. It'll get better, esp with these types of businesses popping up & taking a chance, but they can't do it alone & the city needs to stop dragging their feet.