A Look at the Southside Boulevard Visioning Plan

[Metro Jacksonville]

A Look at the Southside Boulevard Visioning Plan



The Jacksonville Transportation Authority (JTA) has a new vision for the future of Southside Boulevard. Take a look at some of the highlights and let us know what you think.

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[PeeJayEss]

Cool palm trees, Vision Plan!

I like how the street view renderings have bicyclists riding on the side of 6 and 8 lane highways, including the last example where they are actually riding between the main road and two separate merging lanes. The cyclist is about to die! No, JTA, the after photos will not look any different in character than the before photos except for the addition of some pavement.

[Captain Zissou]

I like the optimism in the TOD renderings, but is that a tunnel that goes under a park at southside and baymeadows?? Can we first put in a street car before we blow $200M on a freaking tunnel?? More pie in the sky plans that will never happen, while we ignore the simple and common sense needs of the urban neighborhoods.

[IrvAdams]

Some of the road and shoulder/median redesigns are creative, like the mega-berms on opposite sides of SS in the stretch near Regency - this would assist with visual and audio calming. I always feel sympathetic to the folks who live in the nice brick houses in that area that face directly onto this 4-lane boulevard with additional 2-lane access roads.

[IrvAdams]

I like the optimism in the TOD renderings, but is that a tunnel that goes under a park at southside and baymeadows?? Can we first put in a street car before we blow $200M on a freaking tunnel?? More pie in the sky plans that will never happen, while we ignore the simple and common sense needs of the urban neighborhoods.

Just curious, does anyone know offhand if tunnels are cheaper than overpasses?

[coredumped]

Cool palm trees, Vision Plan!

I like how the street view renderings have bicyclists riding on the side of 6 and 8 lane highways, including the last example where they are actually riding between the main road and two separate merging lanes. The cyclist is about to die! No, JTA, the after photos will not look any different in character than the before photos except for the addition of some pavement.

Now now, there's no need to get upset. This is a vision plan, then comes a $400,000 feasibility study. Shortly after, a $1,000,000 study on the previous study. So you're looking at a minimum of 6 years before this comes close to breaking ground.

By the time JTA does anything non-bus related we'll all have jet packs.

[tufsu1]

I like the optimism in the TOD renderings, but is that a tunnel that goes under a park at southside and baymeadows?? Can we first put in a street car before we blow $200M on a freaking tunnel?? More pie in the sky plans that will never happen, while we ignore the simple and common sense needs of the urban neighborhoods.

the things shown in this plan were visions/requests of those in the Southside Boulevard area...so perhaps, just like urban core folks want streetcar, they want a tunnel

[thelakelander]

I don't believe the tunnel was a request by residents. That was a concept from the consultant.

[pears045]

Its amazing there isn't some type of streetcar that runs all of SS Blvd, connects to JTB (or even Beach Blvd) by TownCenter, and runs out to connect with the beaches trolleys.  I live at the beach and would utilize the hell out of something like that...I would have to imagine others would as well.     

[coredumped]

Its amazing there isn't some type of streetcar that runs all of SS Blvd, connects to JTB (or even Beach Blvd) by TownCenter, and runs out to connect with the beaches trolleys.  I live at the beach and would utilize the hell out of something like that...I would have to imagine others would as well.     

Streetcar? Most of southside doesn't even have sidewalks

[ProjectMaximus]

I like the overall idea and optimism. Money will be the obvious problem and clearly the entire comprehensive plan shouldn't be a priority for the city (bits and pieces perhaps).

I like the optimism in the TOD renderings, but is that a tunnel that goes under a park at southside and baymeadows?? Can we first put in a street car before we blow $200M on a freaking tunnel?? More pie in the sky plans that will never happen, while we ignore the simple and common sense needs of the urban neighborhoods.

LOL...with land area at a premium on the southside, we've clearly got to find a way to maximize space. You know...instead of starting with setbacks and density.

Its amazing there isn't some type of streetcar that runs all of SS Blvd, connects to JTB (or even Beach Blvd) by TownCenter, and runs out to connect with the beaches trolleys.  I live at the beach and would utilize the hell out of something like that...I would have to imagine others would as well.     

I'm not the expert, but I'm sure this would be cost-prohibitive and would also be an inefficient mode of transit for most of the area you described. Many years from now we may have see light rail down the Beach Blvd corridor, but until then what we must hope for is better bus service in the areas you described.

[jcjohnpaint]

I think a good start would be sidewalks/ separate bike paths, and decent bus shelters.  I don't know how this would ever happen if we can't even make this happen in the parts of the city that have infrastructure that can support the density.  Also, are we going to tear down certain preexisting buildings to make this happen?  We will have most of SS Blvd looking like LaVilla

[Keith-N-Jax]

I like the greenery, and medians. Looks pretty good if it can be accomplished.

[PeeJayEss]

I like the optimism in the TOD renderings, but is that a tunnel that goes under a park at southside and baymeadows?? Can we first put in a street car before we blow $200M on a freaking tunnel?? More pie in the sky plans that will never happen, while we ignore the simple and common sense needs of the urban neighborhoods.

Just curious, does anyone know offhand if tunnels are cheaper than overpasses?

Very much no. Tunnels are generally the most expensive conveyance possible.

[pierre]

Reminds me of some cool things I have done in Sim City