Offshore Oil Drilling and the Oil Rig Disaster in the Gulf

Started by RiversideGator, April 30, 2008, 01:14:37 AM

Do you support Oil Drilling off of Florida's First Coast?

Yes
No

JC

Quote from: stephendare on May 27, 2010, 12:43:02 AM
Quote from: JC on May 27, 2010, 12:40:52 AM
I still cant believe the people buying BP gas still.  If you are doing it, you are seriously misguided.

British Petroleum rep Randy Prescott: "Louisiana isn't the only place that has shrimp."
Here's Randy's office phone number: (713) 323-4093 and his email: randy.prescott@bp.com

WOW!



Here is an image of the Great Southeastern Oil Pelican, notice its waterproof coating which also doubles as a layer of poison deterrent in case large mammals attempt consume this majestic bird!

Timkin

http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/   Check this unbelivably simple idea out.   This is an effective idea and I hope BP will consider stongly implimenting the idea.    This could make cleanup along the shores, where this is bound to wash to , much much easier to remove.

north miami

Quote from: stephendare on May 27, 2010, 12:43:02 AM
Quote from: JC on May 27, 2010, 12:40:52 AM
I still cant believe the people buying BP gas still.  If you are doing it, you are seriously misguided.

British Petroleum rep Randy Prescott: "Louisiana isn't the only place that has shrimp."
Here's Randy's office phone number: (713) 323-4093 and his email: randy.prescott@bp.com

A couple of months ago,during full court press by Texas oil interests to expand Florida operations,a Florida state enviro agency head claimed that any impacts to tourism would be mitigated because tourists have many options as places to go in Florida.
I am not making this up-a Public Radio news blip.
Anyone else recall??

duvaldude08

I dont see the point of boycutt of BP. I mean seriously, I am sure they didnt plan on having an explosion, killing their workers and causing a servere oil spill. It's called an accident. For example, if you were in the car and hit and killed an animal, that is an ACCIDENT. Would it be fair for people to call you an animal killer and have animal rights groups up your a@#???? Come poeple, this is an oil leak UNDER WATER. This is not something simple to fix. And if everyone has so much to say, how about you get down there and fix yourselves. Boycott or no boycott, its going to eventually get fixed and life will go on. A boycot is not going to magically fix the problem.
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duvaldude08

Quote from: Bostech on May 26, 2010, 09:45:57 PM
Lack of presidents response shows who really rules USA.Not the people but corporations and wealthy families.Government and WH is not too hard on BP because they are one who are truly a boss.Obama is just a puppet like every other president.


The government is actually allowing them ample to fix the problem before they step in. I dont see anything wrong with that.
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kramer2k

Quote from: duvaldude08 on May 27, 2010, 09:59:49 AM
I dont see the point of boycutt of BP. I mean seriously, I am sure they didnt plan on having an explosion, killing their workers and causing a servere oil spill. It's called an accident.  A boycot is not going to magically fix the problem.
Well said DD08.  Agreed!

fsujax

saw this earlier. so far it's the only report of its kind I have found. Looks like the plan is working.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/26/bp-says-effort-plug-spill-going-planned/

finehoe

There's plenty of evidence that BP cut corners on safety. According to two rig workers and the other two companies, BP ordered gas-blocking heavy drilling fluid (or "mud") removed from the well before a cement plug was in place, an apparent diversion from normal protocol. An escaped methane gas bubble is believed to have caused the explosion.

Greed is the underlying cause. In this latter category, BP’s refusal to spend $500,000 to install a deep-water valve, and its equally shortsighted pass on installing an acoustic switch, a remote control failsafe device costing about the same, shows the oil company’s focus on profits over human life.  

The one device BP did install, a so-called “dead-man switch”, was likely (dare I say it?) a cheap, foreign knockoff. It certainly didn’t work as designed.  

BP was drilling deeper than 22,000 feet, in spite of â€" or in defiance of â€" a U.S. Minerals Management Service (MMS) permit that limited exploratory drilling to 20,000 feet.

I don't think it's at all certain that its going to eventually get fixed and life will go on.  Considering how long its taken so far to do anything, there is very much a chance that they won't be able to "fix" it and the gulf could be ecologically as well as economically destroyed forever.

A boycott isn't about "magically fixing the problem" but is an excellent way for the public to register its disapproval of the way BP has handeled this, since our corporate-captured government is sure not to do anything other than a slap on the wrist.

JeffreyS

Lenny Smash

duvaldude08

Quote from: finehoe on May 27, 2010, 10:19:03 AM
There's plenty of evidence that BP cut corners on safety. According to two rig workers and the other two companies, BP ordered gas-blocking heavy drilling fluid (or "mud") removed from the well before a cement plug was in place, an apparent diversion from normal protocol. An escaped methane gas bubble is believed to have caused the explosion.

Greed is the underlying cause. In this latter category, BP’s refusal to spend $500,000 to install a deep-water valve, and its equally shortsighted pass on installing an acoustic switch, a remote control failsafe device costing about the same, shows the oil company’s focus on profits over human life.  

The one device BP did install, a so-called “dead-man switch”, was likely (dare I say it?) a cheap, foreign knockoff. It certainly didn’t work as designed.  

BP was drilling deeper than 22,000 feet, in spite of â€" or in defiance of â€" a U.S. Minerals Management Service (MMS) permit that limited exploratory drilling to 20,000 feet.

I don't think it's at all certain that its going to eventually get fixed and life will go on.  Considering how long its taken so far to do anything, there is very much a chance that they won't be able to "fix" it and the gulf could be ecologically as well as economically destroyed forever.

A boycott isn't about "magically fixing the problem" but is an excellent way for the public to register its disapproval of the way BP has handeled this, since our corporate-captured government is sure not to do anything other than a slap on the wrist.

I Will agree that there had to be some safety issues that should have been addressed. There has to be something in place in case something like this happen. however, they taken full responsibilty, so what more can we ask. Also, I do not feel greed caused this. I believe Amercians greed if anything cause this. Everybody keeps driving, buying these gas guzling vehicles with no regard to oil and oil prices, thus causing us to go to deseperate measures to get oil.
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Traveller

My wife has a friend who works in marine research down in the Keys.  Her friend says a significant portion of the oil currently floating in the Gulf isn't even from the leak.  Says other folks have been using the leak as cover to dump their own oil waste in the water since doing so is cheaper than disposing of it properly.  Nothing people do surprises me anymore.

Bostech

Duval,do you work for BP?
Did they pay you any money to defend them???

BP did not just cut corners but also are trying to COVER UP extent of spill,from underestimating amount of oil coming out to dispersing chemicals to break oil so it doesnt show up on surface and make it look smaller then it is.
BP did not apologize or spend time and money to get all possible methods to clean up mess.
BP is greedy oil company as any other and only punishment is to hurt them in their pockets and jail those executives who created unsafe conditions,cut corners and ignored warnings.

Legalize Marijuana,I need something to calm me down after I watch Fox News.

If Jesus was alive today,Republicans would call him gay and Democrats would put him on food stamps.

JC

Quote from: duvaldude08 on May 27, 2010, 09:59:49 AM
I dont see the point of boycutt of BP. I mean seriously, I am sure they didnt plan on having an explosion, killing their workers and causing a servere oil spill. It's called an accident. For example, if you were in the car and hit and killed an animal, that is an ACCIDENT. Would it be fair for people to call you an animal killer and have animal rights groups up your a@#???? Come poeple, this is an oil leak UNDER WATER. This is not something simple to fix. And if everyone has so much to say, how about you get down there and fix yourselves. Boycott or no boycott, its going to eventually get fixed and life will go on. A boycot is not going to magically fix the problem.

Please dont make dumb ass analogies!  If you kill an animal with your car, have you killed 11 people, destroyed an ecosystem, a tourism industry, a fishing industry? 

BP took the risk to MAKE MONEY, they are not performing a public service, they are using OUR oil in our water in order to make a profit, they assume all the responsibility for their endeavor.  Dont get me wrong MMS is as dysfunctional an organization as any other and Obama is a short sighted moron if he thinks we should keep doing this but BP gets no sympathy or understanding for this!  Their asses should be in jail for their negligence. 

JC

Quote from: Traveller on May 27, 2010, 11:26:27 AM
My wife has a friend who works in marine research down in the Keys.  Her friend says a significant portion of the oil currently floating in the Gulf isn't even from the leak.  Says other folks have been using the leak as cover to dump their own oil waste in the water since doing so is cheaper than disposing of it properly.  Nothing people do surprises me anymore.

I would like to know how much is significant, can you find out, you know, significant being such a vague and subjective word?  Because what I am reading is that there is somewhere between 250,000 and 3,000,000 gallons being released A DAY. 

finehoe

Quote from: Traveller on May 27, 2010, 11:26:27 AM
My wife has a friend who works in marine research down in the Keys.  Her friend says a significant portion of the oil currently floating in the Gulf isn't even from the leak.  Says other folks have been using the leak as cover to dump their own oil waste in the water since doing so is cheaper than disposing of it properly.  Nothing people do surprises me anymore.
While I don't doubt that this could be happening (nothing people do surprises me, either) it seems to me that "oil waste" would be pretty easy to distinguish from crude oil, and that it would have to be a huge number of people doing it to compete with the millions of gallons coming out of the well.