Revitalization: Marietta Street Artery

Started by Metro Jacksonville, March 14, 2014, 03:00:02 AM

Metro Jacksonville

Revitalization: Marietta Street Artery



Metro Jacksonville takes a look at an emerging neighborhood in http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2011-apr-elements-of-urbanism-Atlanta">Atlanta that has a lot in common with several blighted areas of Jacksonville: The Marietta Street Artery

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krazeeboi

This district is locally known as the Luckie-Marietta district which has the Centennial Olympic Park area as its southern boundary. On that end, the College Football HOF is currently under construction and a 129-suite Homewood Suites on the same block as the Hilton Garden Inn (across from Der Biergarten) is planned. Also a 150-room Hyatt Place hotel at the northwest corner of Ivan Allen Boulevard and Luckie Street, catty-corner to the Georgia Aquarium, is under construction. The biggest proposal for this district is the Times Square South development, which I hope eventually gets off the ground. It would be a game changer for that area and for downtown in general.

Overall, Luckie-Marietta is a great example of a historic district getting lots of new urban infill that helps to revitalize and flesh out the urban fabric of the area. It can and should serve as a template for other parts of downtown that are ripe for revitalization.

krazeeboi

I guess this entry wasn't as exciting lol.

mtraininjax

Comparing Jacksonville to Atlanta is just not fair in any comparison.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

krazeeboi

It's not a comparison; it's simply showing how principles of urban revitalization work in different contexts. Jacksonville can have a thriving urban core without becoming the second coming of Atlanta.

thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

mtraininjax

QuoteJacksonville can have a thriving urban core without becoming the second coming of Atlanta.

OK, and I am betting we can all win the lottery at the same time. Hope is not a strategy. Jax has no strategy other than hope for a better day tomorrow. Need more residents downtown before you can have a thriving urban core. Build and show a strategy around getting more people downtown, about 3,000 in 32202 now, and you can make a difference, till then, the strategy is just HOPE.

Again, comparing Atlanta, with Jacksonville is ludicrous and we don't want the comparison either!
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

thelakelander

We need to realize that over 100k live within a 3 mile radius of DT. DT also has more residents in it today than it has had in 100 years. Do we need more residents specifically in the Northbank? Sure. However, we shouldn't use it as a crutch for why DT struggles, while we ignore tapping into the 100k on the fringe.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

IrvAdams

Also, considering that most people who live in DT will tell you they have to leave DT for many items, so the core that you do have doesn't even shop there because the appropriate store/goods aren't available. I guarantee you give people a fresh market of vegetables and meats, etc. and assorted sundries and miscellaneous goods in a DT setting and they will attend.
"He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still"
- Lao Tzu

thelakelander

Fresh Market will be open by the end of the year. It's going vertical now.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

tufsu1

Quote from: mtraininjax on March 30, 2014, 09:00:29 AM
Need more residents downtown before you can have a thriving urban core. Build and show a strategy around getting more people downtown, about 3,000 in 32202 now, and you can make a difference, till then, the strategy is just HOPE.

folks who live in downtown often go to neighborhoods like Riverside, Avondale, and San Marco for dining and retail...the vice versa can be (and is) also true....I believe, mtrain, that you posted in another thread about recently eating at La Cena.

As Lake said, there are 100,000 people living within a few miles of downtown...plenty enough to support vibrancy.

vicupstate

Quote from: mtraininjax on March 30, 2014, 09:00:29 AM
QuoteJacksonville can have a thriving urban core without becoming the second coming of Atlanta.

OK, and I am betting we can all win the lottery at the same time. Hope is not a strategy. Jax has no strategy other than hope for a better day tomorrow. Need more residents downtown before you can have a thriving urban core. Build and show a strategy around getting more people downtown, about 3,000 in 32202 now, and you can make a difference, till then, the strategy is just HOPE.

Again, comparing Atlanta, with Jacksonville is ludicrous and we don't want the comparison either!

Residences are what most of the pictures in the Marietta Street thread show.  We all agree we need more residences in the core, but this thread shows what could be done in the Myrtle Avenue and Springfield districts to do just that. You undermine your own argument.

You have a point about strategy or the lack thereof.  That has been missing to one degree or another for decades.  I assume DIA is working on one now.   

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Orlanta

Judging by the line at West Egg, I'm assuming these were taken on a weekend before Noon.  ;D

Its interesting that I've never thought of Marietta street having been revitalized but having spent some time in the area this past weekend, it clearly has been.  Its revitalization has occurred gradually and absent any grand plan. The Centennial Park area, Georgia Tech, and Westside Urban Market have served as anchors for development and with all of the investment in that corridor and housing development nearby, Marietta street certainly has some traction.

 
In Jacksonville, I think revitalization efforts should similarly be focused on corridors that have some form of anchor to help sustain the development.


Here are some other under construction projects in addition to what was captured in the photos.

Even this beauty is currently being re-purposed into a new fast casual resto'






and of course