FDOT Misguiding Public on Fuller Warren Bridge Project?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, February 10, 2014, 03:00:02 AM

Metro Jacksonville

FDOT Misguiding Public on Fuller Warren Bridge Project?



FDOT to unveil plans for improving traffic through the I-10 and I-95 interchange area in Jacksonville. In preparation of FDOT's presentation, Metro Jacksonville highlights a situation where FDOT may be misguiding the public in building their case to widen the Fuller Warren Bridge.

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Noone

Just emailed Mr. Knight. That picture of the open canal ditch is so depressing when thinking of the clear cutting that just happened on Hogans Creek.

thelakelander

The canal along I-595? It's been that way for decades now. I doubt the canal is natural as well. I'm pretty sure it was one of many that helped drain the Everglades to allow for most of the sprawl in that section of Broward County.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Bridges

Is the bridge widening a done deal?  And now we're just arguing for the design elements?  Or will the meeting tonight also be to push back on the expansion as a whole? 

So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

thelakelander

#4
Personally, I'm not against FDOT attempting to improve travel flow on the highway. Ultimately, the devil is in the details of if it can be done without significant negative impact to the neighborhoods surrounding it. That proof of burden falls on FDOT. Nevertheless, with this article, I'm just sharing with the community what can and can't be legally done with the structure. This is something we've glazed over in the past and Jax's streets are deadly as a result of our inability to see the forest for the trees. However, it's up to the community to decide if they want a good project or no project at all.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

fieldafm

QuoteIs the bridge widening a done deal?  And now we're just arguing for the design elements?  Or will the meeting tonight also be to push back on the expansion as a whole? 


The bridge widening should not occur in the first place if it's going to destroy the neighborhood in the process.  The original plans called for a significant amount of right of way acquisition.

What does that mean?  It means that homes, businesses, a park and a portion of the Riverside Arts Market will be taken from the community to widen a damn road.

Any additional encroachment on the neighborhood is UNACCEPTABLE!

SunKing


thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

carpnter

Quote from: thelakelander on February 10, 2014, 07:53:05 AM
Personally, I'm not against FDOT attempting to improve travel flow on the highway. Ultimately, the devil is in the details of if it can be done without significant negative impact to the neighborhoods surrounding it. That proof of burden falls on FDOT. Nevertheless, with this article, I'm just sharing with the community what can and can't be legally done with the structure. This is something we've glazed over in the past and Jax's streets are deadly as a result of our inability to see the forest for the trees. However, it's up to the community to decide if they want a good project or no project at all.

Unfortunately as of late, the FDOT's attempts to improve traffic flow have been unsuccessful or have made things worse.  (i.e. 9B-N into I-295-N)

cracklow

Quote from: SunKing on February 10, 2014, 08:34:14 AM
What is the date of the open house?

From the article: FDOT's informal “open house” for the unveiling of their new improvement plan will be between 4:30 and 6:30 p.m. This will be followed by a presentation at 6:30 p.m. and public comments. The location is the Riverside Park United Methodist Church at 819 Park Street.

thelakelander

Quote from: carpnter on February 10, 2014, 08:48:39 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on February 10, 2014, 07:53:05 AM
Personally, I'm not against FDOT attempting to improve travel flow on the highway. Ultimately, the devil is in the details of if it can be done without significant negative impact to the neighborhoods surrounding it. That proof of burden falls on FDOT. Nevertheless, with this article, I'm just sharing with the community what can and can't be legally done with the structure. This is something we've glazed over in the past and Jax's streets are deadly as a result of our inability to see the forest for the trees. However, it's up to the community to decide if they want a good project or no project at all.

Unfortunately as of late, the FDOT's attempts to improve traffic flow have been unsuccessful or have made things worse.  (i.e. 9B-N into I-295-N)
Which is another reason why the public should pay attention to the design elements and background reasoning for FDOT projects. Getting these things right on paper can save a lot of heartache.....and public money down the road.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Tacachale

Thanks for the info, Lake. If FDOT wants to sell this project, a bike/ped improvement should be what they come in the door with. It shouldn't even be considered without that.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

tufsu1

Two other multi-use trails to reference

The E-W Expressway east of downtown Orlando
The new I-275 project connecting downtown Tampa with Westshore

thelakelander

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Quote from: tufsu1 on February 10, 2014, 02:02:46 PM
Two other multi-use trails to reference

The E-W Expressway east of downtown Orlando

Nice. I totally forgot about the E-W Expressway in Orlando.


http://www.johnweeks.com/cablestay/pages/sec07.html


This is identical to what something on the Fuller Warren could look like. Path starts at Park Street ramp in Five Points and ends at Palm Avenue ramp in San Marco.


http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/the_boomer136/408LakeUnderhillBridgeConcept.jpg
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali