Liveblog: ICSC Next Generation Road to Redevelopment Panel Discussion

Started by DeadGirlsDontDance, February 06, 2014, 06:02:58 PM

DeadGirlsDontDance

There's a lot of frustration from the business people on the panel, but Stephen has done a pretty good job of directing the conversation and occasionally lightening the tone.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." ~Edith Sitwell

DeadGirlsDontDance

Open questions from the audience!

"Is the city going to repurpose vacant city owned properties and open them to development?"

A guy from the city responded to this question with an explanation of the difficulties of selling the properties, but there wasn't an actual "Yes" or "No" answer.

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." ~Edith Sitwell

DeadGirlsDontDance

Another question that Stephen rephrased as "Are you guys just pissed off, or is there a systemic problem?" Short answer: Yes.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." ~Edith Sitwell

DeadGirlsDontDance

Meeting over, and drinks are being served. Best quote: "If I sounded angry, that's just my enthusiasm."
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." ~Edith Sitwell

DeadGirlsDontDance

Paul Crawford, Deputy Director of the Office of Economic Development, just explained to me that what I thought was a non answer to the question about the city selling its vacant properties was NOT a non answer, I just didn't hear the YES at the very beginning, probably because I was sitting nowhere near him. MY BAD.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." ~Edith Sitwell

DeadGirlsDontDance

In case anybody wonders what happened to the rest of the questions, the clock ran out. And now so will I.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." ~Edith Sitwell

L.P. Hovercraft

Quote from: DeadGirlsDontDance on February 06, 2014, 06:33:47 PM
Office of OED: Why is city policy tilted towards a residential property owner holding a $200,000 asset vs a commercial property owner holding a $2,000,000 asset and creating jobs. How can the city help to encourage community input without costing the property owner time and money to defend their real estate decision?

Great question!

I think in order to increase growth and move Jacksonville and our country forward, those that possess less capital (a/k/a "the takers", welfare abusers, lazy people, etc.). should never have equal or greater influence on public policy than the true job creators or "the makers" that possess more wealth and thus greater inherent worth.
This is obviously the best and only way to achieve a truly rational, just and humane democratic society.

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L.P. Hovercraft

Quote from: stephendare on February 07, 2014, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: L.P. Hovercraft on February 07, 2014, 11:27:15 AM
Quote from: DeadGirlsDontDance on February 06, 2014, 06:33:47 PM
Office of OED: Why is city policy tilted towards a residential property owner holding a $200,000 asset vs a commercial property owner holding a $2,000,000 asset and creating jobs. How can the city help to encourage community input without costing the property owner time and money to defend their real estate decision?

Great question!

I think in order to increase growth and move Jacksonville and our country forward, those that possess less capital (a/k/a "the takers", welfare abusers, lazy people, etc.). should never have equal or greater influence on public policy than the true job creators or "the makers" that possess more wealth and thus greater inherent worth.
This is obviously the best and only way to achieve a truly rational, just and humane democratic society.

(This message paid for by Koch Fertilizer, LLC, a subsidiary of Koch Brothers Industries, Inc.)

That would be a pretty good idea, lp hovercraft.

Then again, perhaps there would be a better way to encourage the issues to get solved without creating an unequal playing field where one side has all the cost and the other side has no cost and nothing to lose by pursuing a whim?

Everyone should have equal say so over their own property, and everyone should have a say so in their community, but is it fair to cost a small business guy hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees, attorneys costs, and lost sales because you dont want a purple sign more than 14 feet from the ground on his building ?

I, for one, welcome our neo-feudal overlords.

Are you listening COJ governmental agencies?  Wealthy property owners demand all the special treatment that less privileged property owners currently enjoy to END!

Now this guy Tom Perkins gets it--hostility towards the wealthy is akin to the Holocaust!  If you pay $1 million in taxes you should get 1 million votes!  Mammon über alles--suck it poor people!

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/02/14/vc-perkins-ignore-protesters-against-silicon-valleys-rich/

"Let us not be blind to our differences, but let us also direct attention to our common interests and the means by which those differences can be resolved.  And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity."
--John F. Kennedy, 6/10/1963