Bikes & Pedestrians On The Fuller Warren Bridge?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, December 23, 2013, 03:00:02 AM

thelakelander

^Unfortunately, it's a totally different world. We can't even figure out how to pay for a simple pedestrian overpass over the Arlington Expressway or install sidewalks on Philips Highway near Avenues Mall. Now, your own local FDOT district is saying anything it can to not do anything but add more auto/truck lanes to the Fuller Warren, despite it literally being in the heart of town.
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IrvAdams

What was the financing and the legal entity behind the Wonderwood Expressway (limited-access highway), or McCormick Road, whatever you want to call it, in Arlington/Ft. Caroline/Mayport? It has sheltered bike/ped paths for miles. Very nice.
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urbanlibertarian

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thelakelander

Here's the cross section of one of the largest FDOT projects in the state, the widening of I-595 in Broward County.

Totally slipped my mind, but it will have a parallel multi-use path as well.

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coredumped

Excuse my ignorance but if these are all in Florida, they're all done by FDOT - why won't they do this for Jax? It looks like FDOT can do good things, why are they opposed to doing it here?
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fieldafm

QuoteExcuse my ignorance but if these are all in Florida, they're all done by FDOT - why won't they do this for Jax? It looks like FDOT can do good things, why are they opposed to doing it here?

They would then have to divert money away from neighborhood-killing roadway expansion.

thelakelander

Quote from: coredumped on February 06, 2014, 04:25:34 PM
Excuse my ignorance but if these are all in Florida, they're all done by FDOT - why won't they do this for Jax? It looks like FDOT can do good things, why are they opposed to doing it here?

There are seven different FDOT districts in Florida. Some are more progressive than others with various issues and vise versa.



D2 may simply not be as progressive in their understanding and acceptance of accommodating alternative modes of transportation as some districts with larger urban populations.  The claim that they can't do a multi-use path on the Fuller Warren because it's against state law is silly and a perfect example of this. IMO, nearly every roadway they invest in should be multimodal.  If a Suncoast Parkway can have a +40 mile multi-use path paralleling it, then SR 9B, I-295, etc. could too if we really wanted something like that.

Btw, I-275 is being expanded by FDOT D7 in Tampa between DT and Westshore. It will also have a parallel multi-use path.  Here's a couple of images of that project:







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Charles Hunter

That Dutch thing looks cool - a horizontal Dutch Windmill!!

icarus

Quote from: IrvAdams on February 06, 2014, 03:30:01 PM
What was the financing and the legal entity behind the Wonderwood Expressway (limited-access highway), or McCormick Road, whatever you want to call it, in Arlington/Ft. Caroline/Mayport? It has sheltered bike/ped paths for miles. Very nice.

It was JTA.  I worked on that project and I think the designer/planners considered the residential thoroughfare nature of roadway when including the pedestrian/bike paths. 

thelakelander

BTW, Wonderwood is not a limited access facility.
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DevilsAdvocate

Late to the discussion but the new Tappen Zee Bridge 20 miles north of NYC and the George Washington Bridge will also have pedestrian and bike lanes: http://newnybridgegallery.com/index.php

It's always hard with FDOT to tell whether they're being dishonest or ignorant. Likely a bit of both in this case.

spuwho

When someone responds by showing you a law instead of a civil engineering reason or at least having a discussion about it, its pretty clear they don't want any part of it. If they know the law, then they know what is possible.

Hows does one get involved in a FDOT District I wonder?  They aren't elected.

I-10east

I went to the Riverside Arts Market on Saturday. I parked over there on May St beside that parking garage, and I couldn't believe may eyes, as I saw someone walking south on the I-95 Northbound Park Street off ramp. I dunno if it was the same guy or not, but then this incident happened below. Have anyone ever saw people walking across the Fuller Warren? There's definitely a need for a pedestrian component to the FWB. 

www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionlocal/story/JSO-officer-injured-after-responding-to-suicide/cXmiRS07rECo0z_r-3eAwg.cspx