The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan

[edjax]

^Or we hope we get a new mayor who's serious about finding funding for all the projects we need to fund.

And you really don't think Curry is that person? 

[I-10east]

^^^I was about to say the same thing.

[tufsu1]

^Or we hope we get a new mayor who's serious about finding funding for all the projects we need to fund.

And you really don't think Curry is that person? 

no...from his posts in many threads, I think he thinks Curry is that guy....which I find laughable

[Tacachale]

Think what you want to think about what I think. I don't know that Curry is "that guy", but here's hoping. We all know for a fact that Alvin is not.

[edjax]

Come on. I never even heard Curry utter the word downtown until a few days before the first debate.

[Tacachale]

And Alvin talks about downtown all the time, and we can all see what he's done for it.

[pears045]

Whatever is done, they need to incorporate the boating community and improve the docking, you used to be able to raft off 6-8 boats deep; now they only allow 2-3....  I can remember growing up and being downtown a couple of times a month and it being a happening place packed with boats and in turn "boat loads of people".  The place is so rundown now that it has to have a complete overhaul.  Every place in there just looks trashy because of the cheap "improvements" that new tenants try and make.  I would like to see something like the Conch House in St. Augustine in DT Jacksonville.  A place that is interactive and will bring people by land and sea and incorporate good music, food and cocktails on a regular basis   BTW, I'm the stud on the right lol this picture was on a regular weekend in 1988.....I am a boat owner now and love this city, but you wont catch me docked at the landing and that sucks because of all the great memories I have there.  Hope that changes

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[edjax]

And Alvin talks about downtown all the time, and we can all see what he's done for it.

Is downtown better now than 4 years ago?

[Tacachale]

And Alvin talks about downtown all the time, and we can all see what he's done for it.

Is downtown better now than 4 years ago?

Without a doubt. Not where it should be, especially as it concerns the Landing.

[PeeJayEss]

And Alvin talks about downtown all the time, and we can all see what he's done for it.

Is downtown better now than 4 years ago?

Without a doubt. Not where it should be, especially as it concerns the Landing.

Can you attribute the difference between now and four years ago to Alvin Brown? Seems a bit of a stretch. 2011 was a much different landscape on an international level. I certainly don't think Alvin Brown is responsible for the improvement in the general US economy, not sure he's been more than background noise in the natural recovery of downtown.

[edjax]

And Alvin talks about downtown all the time, and we can all see what he's done for it.

Is downtown better now than 4 years ago?

Without a doubt. Not where it should be, especially as it concerns the Landing.

Can you attribute the difference between now and four years ago to Alvin Brown? Seems a bit of a stretch. 2011 was a much different landscape on an international level. I certainly don't think Alvin Brown is responsible for the improvement in the general US economy, not sure he's been more than background noise in the natural recovery of downtown.

Not all of it no, but at least he promotes downtown, whereas not sure Lenny ventures there much. Things like Citizens move to downtown and the Hemming Park have nothing really to do with the imrpving national economy now. He has gotten the needle moving in the right direction at least.  What did the prior 2 mayors really do for downtown, that did not involve mega public assistance?

[Tacachale]

And Alvin talks about downtown all the time, and we can all see what he's done for it.

Is downtown better now than 4 years ago?

Without a doubt. Not where it should be, especially as it concerns the Landing.

Can you attribute the difference between now and four years ago to Alvin Brown? Seems a bit of a stretch. 2011 was a much different landscape on an international level. I certainly don't think Alvin Brown is responsible for the improvement in the general US economy, not sure he's been more than background noise in the natural recovery of downtown.

Pretty much, and sadly that's about the most anyone can say about him.

[tufsu1]

And Alvin talks about downtown all the time, and we can all see what he's done for it.

Is downtown better now than 4 years ago?

as noted by others very much so...and while the Brown administration has done some harm in some cases (Jazz Fest anyone), the Mayor has consistently advocates for downtown....he talks to companies about relocating and he is a cheerleader for more sporting events in the core.

[cephus]

I don't have enough evidence to say with any certainty, but it seems from reading this forum for the last 7 (at least) years, that one of the main problems downtown is the City standing in the way of small, local start ups...that and the few private landowners looking for exorbitant rents or other conditions.  A Landing that encouraged local, small businesses with unique and interesting products would be a much bigger draw than some "grand plan" to bring in national players that bilk the city for taxpayer dollars and give little in return, if their plans materialize at all.  The Landing is a mall, as I said 15 years ago to a local "mover/shaker" and until it can provide free parking, convenience and a unique experience compared to Town Center or even San Marco, how is it going to compete?  It is not.  Cosmetic work, a "name" anchor means nothing if people feel it an unsafe costly and generic competitor to The Cheesecake Factory and Nordstroms.  It needs to be a space that capitalizes on the river, makes suburbanites feel safe, is easy and cost free to visit and offers something new.  I lived in Santa Monica, CA for some years and saw a depressed commercial street of wig shops, pawn and dusty ethnic boutiques turn into one of the biggest draws in LA - the Third Street Promenade.  One of the greatest things about it was free 3 hour parking on weekdays, free parking after 6 pm, and free parking all day on weekends.  Kept out the business commuters but allowed people to see a show or have a leisurely lunch without worrying about parking fees and tickets.  Also, mounted policemen, giving assurance of safety and order.  It's now one of the biggest draws in LA for visitors and locals alike.  It started with local vendors and now with the irresistible economic cycle features Sur La Table and Restoration Hardware, but it has retained the local uniqueness with the incredible Santa Monice Farmers Market that attracts top chefs and foodies and tourists every Saturday.  I hope that the Landing can follow that model.  Otherwise, it's a tired downtown mall, where suburbanites feel "unsafe" and no one has a reason to go there rather than that suburban hell off Gate Parkway

[vicupstate]

 I lived live in Santa Monica, CA Greenville, SC for some years and saw a depressed commercial street of wig shops, pawn shops and dusty ethnic boutiques boarded up storefronts turn into one of the biggest draws in LA SC - the Third Street Promenade Downtown Greenville.  One of the greatest things about it was free 3 2 hour parking on weekdays, free parking after 6 pm, and free parking all day on weekends.