More sensible for employers to pay their workers than for the government to

[BridgeTroll]

Isnt the bigger question... why is a full grown adult... still at an entry level minimum wage job?  Some seem to contend that those jobs are all that are available.  Most of us are fully aware that is NOT the case.  Why does that 30% stuck in these types of situations... mirror the failure rate of our high schools?

[ChriswUfGator]

So for you, let's take Suzie with 6 children and she is the only income earner in the household because her husband has issues. That puts a total of 8 people in the fold, which is benefits of $1202 a month. Now let's assume  her and Joe Blow work the same shifts. So her benefits at end of month becomes $1,010. Considerably more, but still $126 per person. I am one person and spend probably more than twice that a month. In this case, if she worked a full time job at minimum wage she would still be eligible ... But she has her and 7 other mouths to feed. If her husband got a job working 20 hours at min wage per week, their total benefits would zero out on her 34th hour of work. So, with a full time job and husband a part time job, both at lowest pay, would make them ineligible for benefits.

See why the system is geared to make the employee NOT want to work full time? So blaming the greedy corporations, though they aren't innocent, isn't nearly going to solve the issue.

Ah, well here we go then. Considering that a full 76% of SNAP recipients have dependents, can you spot the flaw in your prior argument, or do we need to keep on with how I'm uninformed?

http://feedingamerica.org/how-we-fight-hunger/programs-and-services/public-assistance-programs/supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program/snap-myths-realities.aspx

http://poverty.ucdavis.edu/faq/what-are-annual-earnings-full-time-minimum-wage-worker

It was tongue in cheek, considering that in the state of Florida 84% of those claiming dependents claim no more than 3.

Thanks for the laughs, but you have proven to me the extent of your knowledge and though it is fun and easy to just mimick what you hear from others, the facts do not support. The point I was trying to make, and obviously failed at, was that working people are not eligible to benefits if they work a regular schedule. As states in my example for you, Suzie's family of 8 zeroes out at 54 hours. (Though I know only 38% of benefit recipients are single, less than 1% have more than 6 dependents so I figure that sort of equalizes them.)Which means 1 parent working full time, 1 part time and they get nothing. And this of course is using minimum wage figures so that is expanding the pie as much as it can.

Now you can continue to argue for the other side, that's fine. I am at 134 East Church Street every Friday (7:30am to 6ish) in the Catholic Charities offices. Come by and I'll show you, directly how many of those receiving benefits have a job. And you can also meet and talk to some who refuse to get a job, because then their benefits will stop. So, as I've said before, though the "working poor needing good stamps to survive" makes a great sound byte, and technically isn't false it also isn't fully evident of the truth. As a matter of fact, the bigger problem we have is getting people over that hump between benefits stopping and them learning financial mgmt so they can afford to feed their family without assistance.

So wait a second, let me get this straight...

You're the one whose position turned out to be correct only 24% of the time, and yet as between the two of us, you're still convinced that I'm the one who's uninformed?

Amazing.

[ChriswUfGator]

Isnt the bigger question... why is a full grown adult... still at an entry level minimum wage job?  Some seem to contend that those jobs are all that are available.  Most of us are fully aware that is NOT the case.  Why does that 30% stuck in these types of situations... mirror the failure rate of our high schools?

I'm not sure that excuses Walmart and McDonald's paying dickensian wages while shifting the burden to the taxpayers by setting up 1-800 lines telling their employees to go apply for SNAP and medicaid. This is an intentional strategy being used to maximize private profits at public expense.

[BridgeTroll]

Isnt the bigger question... why is a full grown adult... still at an entry level minimum wage job?  Some seem to contend that those jobs are all that are available.  Most of us are fully aware that is NOT the case.  Why does that 30% stuck in these types of situations... mirror the failure rate of our high schools?

I'm not sure that excuses Walmart and McDonald's paying dickensian wages while shifting the burden to the taxpayers by setting up 1-800 lines telling their employees to go apply for SNAP and medicaid. This is an intentional strategy being used to maximize private profits at public expense.

lol... please do not leave out Starbucks...