Live Blog: Riverside/Avondale Parking Committee 9/16

[fieldafm]

I sleep better at night knowing Dahlia's Pour House won't steal my first born child.

Hey tough guy:  Maybe you could trade houses with some of these folks who live right next to the bars and they could enjoy your bar-free abode in Fairfax.

Maybe I can just move back into my house behind the Shoppes of Avondale instead of renting it to those hooligans that pee on trees?

You forget that I got mugged and robbed by gunpoint walking back from Art Bar to my house on Riverside Ave 8 years ago.  Back then, King Street wasn't exactly the place to be past 8pm.  I have no fear walking around at night now b/c of all the brave business people who sunk their life savings into turning the area around.

Imagine what you would feel like if someone threatened the entire accumulation of your life's hard work because they didnt like your porch?  It's easy to throw stones when your money isn't on the line, tough girl

[Tacachale]

I sleep better at night knowing Dahlia's Pour House won't steal my first born child.

Hey tough guy:  Maybe you could trade houses with some of these folks who live right next to the bars and they could enjoy your bar-free abode in Fairfax.

Maybe I can just move back into my house behind the Shoppes of Avondale instead of renting it to hooligans that pee on trees?

Bar-free Fairfax? Sounds like Mike has the right idea for folks who don't want to live next to a commercial district that's been there for decades.

[MEGATRON]

The planning dept. made their recommendation and RAP then found out about the application and the recommendation.  Did RAP support PD's recommendation?  Yes.  When residences exist across a small alley from bars (where the sides of houses, not the backs of properties face the alley), it is an incompatible use to have an outside patio.

I remember the good ole days when RAP was concerned with architectural preservation.  I miss those days.  RAP has no business chiming in on planning matters.

Perhaps you don't go far enough back.  The neighborhood originally galvanized over the City's idea to put a highway through the neighborhood.  Check out the RAP's history video on the web site.  RAP has always been involved in zoning and planning issues.

Are you really trying to compare opposition to a highway through Avondale/Riverside to the work RAP is endeavoring now? 

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I sleep better at night knowing Dahlia's Pour House won't steal my first born child.

Hey tough guy:  Maybe you could trade houses with some of these folks who live right next to the bars and they could enjoy your bar-free abode in Fairfax.

Maybe I can just move back into my house behind the Shoppes of Avondale instead of renting it to hooligans that pee on trees?

Bar-free Fairfax? Sounds like Mike has the right idea for folks who don't want to live next to a commercial district that's been there for decades.

Hahahaha....  I see what you did there.....   +6.875   

[L.P. Hovercraft]

Yep. Someone needs  to balance the extraordinary economic power and political might of "corporations" like Alpha Dog.

Well as long as we're engaging in hyperbole:

Of course Alpha Dog closed down because of the nefarious plans of the all-powerful Riverside Avondale Preservation branch of the anti-business Illuminati.
RAP also mercilessly took down Vienna Garden, Jackson's Grill, Deco Bistro, Domo Crepes, Whalebone Grill, Two Sisters Cafe, International Grill, Al Hilm, and all the other businesses that have opened and closed in the area over the past two decades simply because RAP didn't like the cut of their jib. 
And since I'm spilling the beans, my internet research also proves without a doubt that Riverside Avondale Preservation is also responsible for faking the 1969 moon landing in the gymnasium of Nathan Bedford Forrest High School...several years before RAP was even officially formed!

[fieldafm]

Yep. Someone needs  to balance the extraordinary economic power and political might of "corporations" like Alpha Dog.

Well as long as we're engaging in hyperbole:

Of course Alpha Dog closed down because of the nefarious plans of the all-powerful Riverside Avondale Preservation branch of the anti-business Illuminati.
RAP also mercilessly took down Vienna Garden, Jackson's Grill, Deco Bistro, Domo Crepes, Whalebone Grill, Two Sisters Cafe, International Grill, Al Hilm, and all the other businesses that have opened and closed in the area over the past two decades simply because RAP didn't like the cut of their jib. 
And since I'm spilling the beans, my internet research also proves without a doubt that Riverside Avondale Preservation is also responsible for faking the 1969 moon landing in the gymnasium of Nathan Bedford Forrest High School...several years before RAP was even officially formed!

Actually RAP didn't oppose any of those businesses zoning applications and/or call code compliance like Dahlias or Alpha Dog.  So you are comparing apples to oranges. 

[fieldafm]

Well it is curious that Biscotti's and Casbah's efforts to pass a J Bill allowing them to serve liquor with less than 150 seats isn't being openly opposed? 

[zedsdead]

What's up with that Casbah Biscotti's  deal? That surely is an intensification of use - the kind of thing that gets Donahoo and Anderson's panties in a wad?

*crickets*

So hypocritical it make me sick.

[Gators312]

What's up with that Casbah Biscotti's  deal? That surely is an intensification of use - the kind of thing that gets Donahoo and Anderson's panties in a wad?

*crickets*

So hypocritical it make me sick.

Who will save the citrus trees!!    

[simonsays]

Kay, does RAP have a position on the Biscottis J Bill?

[Kay]

Don't know if RAP has an official position--you'd have to ask Carmen.   RAP is not in opposition though.  Some board members also are talking about doing something similar for all the commercial districts like the 5 Points area where you only have to have 100 seats to serve liquor.

[Stephen]

WOW....RAP wants to help the business community and make the area nicer for residents ? Is the world coming to an end? Now I really am worried about the citrus trees !

[Kay]

Folks on this site who denigrate RAP mostly don't listen well or don't understand the nuances of situations.  They definitely are not on the inside; some don't even live in the neighborhood.  So take what they say with a grain of salt. 

[Stephen]

I live in the neighborhood and most of my neighbors do not have much good to say about RAP. They complain that it has overstepped its boundaries with little if any accountability. I am new to the area so I am for the most part neutral

[ChriswUfGator]

Folks on this site who denigrate RAP mostly don't listen well or don't understand the nuances of situations.  They definitely are not on the inside; some don't even live in the neighborhood.  So take what they say with a grain of salt. 

I live in the neighborhood, work in the neighborhood, and employ several other people who also work and live in the neighborhood. Hopefully I'm thus qualified to have an opinion. With that out of the way...

Let's clarify on the biscottis and casbah issues: So RAP is just fine supporting an intensified use to allow the service of alcohol near a residential neighborhood, and god knows how many precious orange trees, one of which even has the outdoor seating RAP so strenuously opposed for another restaurant across the street, at least so long as it's RAP members doing it? Just not if it's kickbacks, mellow mushroom, etc.?

Explain the difference. Seems a bald-faced contradiction.