SPAR revolt?

Started by stephendare, March 28, 2008, 09:02:33 PM

downtownparks

You are correct. It was suggested by "certain posters" that the question was my doing.


It was not.

jbm32206

If posts were deleted...just for the record...it wasn't by me. And also for the record...I don't believe that you, DTP, or anyone really submitted that question. I feel it's a ploy to try and throw the real issue off track, especially with the latest turn of events.

Lunican

Quote from: soxfan on November 15, 2008, 08:41:26 AM
It would be my guess that considering some of who is involved in this tread that someones posts have been deleted....

Every member has the ability to delete their own posts.

strider

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QuoteCircumstances beyond anyone’s control have resulted in a delay of the question and answer session scheduled for next week. A close family member of SPAR President, Claude XXXX, is ill and has been hospitalized. Additionally, Jack XXX has been required to be out of town for several days, and cannot be available for the meeting. Given the situation, there will not be a General Meeting in November. The SPAR Open House, where the community is invited replaces the December meeting, therefore the Question & Answer session will be re-scheduled for January 2009. As you are aware, the election, appointment of additional board members etc. is being reviewed by the Governance Committee. Work is still being done. We apologize for having to postpone the Q&A Session but invite you to continue to submit questions.

So, just to sort of set the record straight, this important meeting (that some of us were basically told to cool it until the meeting occurred) has been postponed for the sake of having Claude, the acting president and Jack, the acting chair of the Governance committee, be able to attend this meeting.  If one actually wanted to have this Q&A session occur in a timely fashion (as one would expect for such an important meeting), one could, of course, schedule a special meeting as the by-laws allow. 

Which of course, brings up the by-laws.  Over on the SPAR Council's own forum, it had been disclosed that technically, per the by-laws, Jack Meeks was not legally appointed.  Also, as Claude Moulton was elected in 2005, his term on the board has expired.  So, what we have here is a very important meeting being postponed so that two people who are not even legally on the board can attend.  Oh, and did you catch this: "the election, appointment of additional board members", sort of saying, elections? Ya, right!  Just freakin' hilarious!

Then we have "THE" sample question and, hey, even a sample answer.

QuoteQ: What would I do if I wanted to open a rooming house in Springfield?

A: One strategy would be to undermine SPAR, an organization that is actively working to prevent any new rooming houses from opening in the historic district.

I get the giggles every time I think of "them" sitting down and actually putting that in print.  It is just too hilarious for words. And I just can't find the right "smiley face" that it deserves.

I have a sample question and answer too:

QUESTION: If you are illegally on the Board of Directors of an organization and do not want to give up your seat for some reason that only you and a few cronies know about, what would you do?

ANSWER: Postpone elections indefinitely, ignore the by-laws, keep your membership in the dark as much as possible and attack any who would have the audacity to call you out on it.

"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

sheclown

We've seen one answer (albeit irrelevant).  Are there anymore?

Perhaps one about the missing election?  The illegal appointments?  The expanding terms of office?

How about the by-law changes?  Uptowngirl, were answers to any of these in the newsletter?

jbm32206

I'm not UTG...but I can answer that...NO

sheclown

ah...yeah...problem is...you never can tell if any given thing is destined to blow over or blow up. 

jbm32206

I think it's a good idea to post each question and their responses. The forum would be an ideal place for it. Not only would this allow for everyone to know what's been asked, but to have a response from the board. Since the questions had to be submitted, that tells me that they want to have prior knowledge and prepared answers.

I would venture to say, that the reason the questions haven't been posted and or answered on the spar forum, update and/or newsletter...

  • It would mean actually intending to respond to them.
  • Having their answers made public




sheclown

The only question which has been answered was a sarcastic attempt to discredit members of this community, members who have a right to question the authority of this community development corporation. 
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Okay SPAR Council, now that you've gotten that off your chest, how about getting real?

jbm32206

Thanks, my monitor now has coffee on it!

uptowngirl

Well I was aksed to give them the benefit of the doubt (which I did) and then this... Is Barbara even allowed on the board? Her term is up, she has no business here in the neighborhood, she does not live in the neighborhood, and I have as yet seen one single skill she has to offer (was previously told she was an attorney whcih is false), and instigation she seems to follow her every post/writing/email. In fact the only thing I see she has going for her is her friendship with the executive director.

Note to SPAR: Time to clean house... and you have started out this mission on the WRONG path.

jbm32206

I couldn't agree with you more....B. Sweet was appointed as a business seat on the board in 2005. It would seem that her term is up. There's also others, who have reached the end of their term, and I've yet to see a notice by spar, letting us know what seats are open so that those interested could toss their hats into the ring. But of course, that would mean holding an election and of course that opens up the possibility of losing their hold over the board and it's actions. Oh, and let's not forget that they selected a governance board...made up of themselves...hello...does that offer credibility to how this organization's been running?

02roadking

"There's also others, who have reached the end of their term, and I've yet to see a notice by spar, letting us know what seats are open so that those interested could toss their hats into the ring."

  So.....Who are the interested candidates, and, what are their qualifications.
Springfield since 1998

jbm32206

Wouldn't it be more helpful to actually have a listing of what positions are open and what qualifications are needed before anyone wants to announce they'd like to run for them? But of course, that would require spar to do the right thing, by listing openings and actually holding an election, instead of the select few making appointments.

Besides that, the executive board made up the governance committee, of themselves....and aren't they the ones who are supposed to oversee applicants? So isn't it their responsibility also, to let the neighborhood and or membership know of openings and what, if any, qualifications are expected of applicants to meet? Hell, they haven't even decided to hold elections...which should've been held by now.

sheclown

Quote from: uptowngirl on November 16, 2008, 07:33:33 AM
Well I was aksed to give them the benefit of the doubt (which I did) and then this... Is Barbara even allowed on the board? Her term is up, she has no business here in the neighborhood, she does not live in the neighborhood, and I have as yet seen one single skill she has to offer (was previously told she was an attorney whcih is false), and instigation she seems to follow her every post/writing/email. In fact the only thing I see she has going for her is her friendship with the executive director.

Note to SPAR: Time to clean house... and you have started out this mission on the WRONG path.
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What happened to her title company that rented space in the SPAR building?  Did that close or did it move?