SPAR revolt?

[fsu813]

Alex,

this is the general "i hate SPAR, SPAR does nothing right, SPAR is evil, down with SPAR, etc" thread.

People with good intentions can have different ways at lokking at things, different approcahes, strategies, etc.

SPAR and thier members see things one way, others see it another way.

There's more thna one way to do accomplish the goal: preserving the history of & revitalizing the neighborhood

[ChriswUfGator]

Well see, Springfield Girl, that's the great thing about a forum! It's all there in black & white. So who said this again?

Barbara is no longer on the board even though that was recently posted twice by one of the posters who continually accuses SPAR of lying. So is only SPAR held to the perfection standard? Why is it a misunderstanding or mistake when someone else states something incorrect but OMG, the volunteers at SPAR lied!

Many here have misstated the truth all the while calling SPAR liars and accusing them for everything that is wrong in the world.

[ChriswUfGator]

I'm sorry your not the brightest tool in the shed. Trying to equate old information that needs to be updated on the site of a volunteer organization with lying is ridiculous.

Well, so again, who's responsibility is it to update SPAR's website then? Mine? Joe's? Who's?

You called us liars, well to be technical you actually said "misstating the truth" (which of course = 'liar'), but when you get right down to it people are just taking what SPAR itself is putting out there. So whether it be the website, or Louise's own e-mails, or whatnot, you seem to have no problem trying to explain away all this stuff that's right there in black & white, and really needs no explaining in the first place! We can all read.

Nobody is lying. Nobody is taking anything out of context. This organization got caught with its pants down and its hand in the cookie jar, undermining the historical preservation mandate that is the organization's entire purpose, and declaring an unofficial war on two of its own members' businesses. So try and explain it away with good intentions or whatever all you want, and I think the point here is still pretty clear in that this thing needs new leadership or it just needs to go away.

[nvrenuf]

Chris, you are actually making her point that she didn't call them liars.

[ChriswUfGator]

Chris, you are actually making her point that she didn't call them liars.

Ok, since you pointed it out, I revised my post to use her exact words.

So yes, what she actually said is that we're, ahem, "misstating the truth". Which still sounds a lot like "liar" to me, but I guess it's open to interpretation. 

[fsu813]

let's see how many long-winded, self-serving, misrepresentative, rather creative posts stephen can come up with that seem to turn all these issues about him, somehow.

i'm going to go back & count what we have so far.

[sheclown]

Ah yes.... here it is.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,4442.0.html

Has about 100 small "rooms for rent" fliers on the counter where you pay. We don't want to support that in the neighborhood. My understanding is that the owner is generally supportive of revitalization, so someone needs to talk to him about that. Or next time i'll just snag them all.

...and by the way, this has nothing to do with me and Joe.  For the record.

[samiam]

Reading all this is exhausting!
I have been out of town for the past 4 months is there anything positive going on in my beloved Springfield

[fsu813]

stephen,

(ha) yes, that BP is nothing but a crackhead magnet actually.

If you were to attend any of the Shadco meetings, perhaps you'd know that the owner is 100% uncooperative with police.

while some convenience stores do want to make a positive difference (ie, banning known drug dealers from thier stores) BP has completely refused to cooperate with police requests. they continue to sell drug thinnly disguised drug items as well.

fyi.

[fsu813]

samiam,

there is a ton of positive things going on. but you won't hear it from Stephen, that's for sure.

1) There is a major parks porject in the works. Project for Public Spaces, a leader in renovating & creating great parks worldwide, has histed community meetings and continues to work on a plan to renovate the "emrald necklace". This is a big deal. SPAR was involved in this, if i'm not mistaken.

2) 3rd & Main and it's 2 restauarnts have opened and have created a ton of positive press and reviews

3) Main Street construction is almost finished, which will make a world of difference when it comes to commerical interest on Main, and asthetically as well.

4) Speaking of aesthetic, SPAR secured money for Main Street business facade improvm,ents, including awning, new fencing, paint, and lighting. Should start around the end of the year I think.

5) Just had another neighborhood cleanup

6) First Fridays, Wine Society, SACARC & other Springfield groups continue to do well. The Dogs Days in the Park event was fun.

7) The new dog park continues to be a very popular destination, as you see people there literally every evening, many come from other parts of town.

8 ) Block captians are reorganizing, should be productive, not including the recent clean up.

9) Several very positive articles in the paper & channel 4 news the past month about the neighborhood in general.

10) Southern Living Magazine will feature Springfield as one of it's top comeback neighborhoods in the January issue, photographers were down about a month ago.

[fsu813]

stephen,

you're right.

the police don't know what they are talking about. neither does everyone who complains about the BP.

you should come to a Shadco meeting and let them know that it's really not that big of a deal.

i mean, crackheads gotta get thier drug items somewhere, right? known drug dealers have to have somewhere to hang out?

and who wants to cooperate with the police anyways?


You are right though, of course you report very postively about the neighbrohood overall. Just not lately.

[fsu813]

11) per Shaco meetings, crime continues to drop.

in part due to the crime-fund, which is through by SPAR.

per Officer Jackson Short.

[nestliving]

I think the 2 of you need to meet in the park and beat the shit out of each other.

Then we all can move on from your silly little panty pulling that's making a cool part of town look like ass.

[fsu813]

i was goinng to arm wrestle him for it at the last MetroJax meeting, but he didn't show......

[fsujax]

Thanks for the good news FSU813. There are many positive things going on.