SPAR revolt?

[ChriswUfGator]

jth.  If by 'baseless' you mean supported by their personal emails, and the direct witness of dozens of people, then I concur.  Obviously that whole silly floating in the internet thing is kindof important to them since they shut down your own forum to prevent people from talking about it anymore.

There was discussion within our board as to whether to print on the front page, not really any of your business, btw..  But I concurred with the opinion that it was being substantively handled in our forums which have heavy readership.  Unlike your fantasy version where there was an 'attempt' to print something that was denied, it simply isnt at that point yet.   So, while im sure the arthur conan doyle novels are interesting, you should read them closer.  Sherlock, you arent.

As an employee of SPAR, thanks for your input.  What, the receptionist was too busy to type up something?

The real answer is that Louise and Claude cannot answer these questions.  Nice try jeremy, but FAIL.

There was no discussion within the board of MetroJacksonville whether or not to print the information on the front page. You wanted to put the information there and the others thought it was baseless and without factual evidence. I was told this firsthand by someone who would know.

Classy post by the way.

You do realize how ridiculous it looks when the same person/people register 100 new screenames, all to post in these SPAR threads, and all saying the same stuff, right?

People should take note of the difference in tone, demeanor, and opinion between long-timers around here, and these newbies with 0 post count who've only registered to defend SPAR in these threads.

It's just the same ole' sh!t but a different day. Instead of telling a bunch of people to call code enforcement on property owners who they don't like, SPAR is just telling people to register and post on these forums in their defense.

And Stephen, I think you're just cheapening your position by even debating with this person who, odds are, is the same person behind at least 2 or 3 of the other new screenames that have instantly popped up, all using the same tone and language to say the same stuff. Figuring that one out isn't exactly rocket science. It's either the same person (very likely), or if it actually is multiple people (less likely), then someone is telling them what to say. Actually, the rash of newbies is probably some combination of the two.

As to Stephen's point in all this, you can misconstrue his words and character-assassinate him all you want, and it just doesn't matter. Frankly, Louise has been hoisted by her own petard. There is no arguing with the e-mails, etc. They are her own words, and boy are they clear...

[jason_contentdg]

^ Chris, because we are all involved in the actual Springfield neighborhood most of us know that these are actual people that are passionate about their neighborhood and are signing up to speak about the issue.

This isn't your precious Moon River thread, most have said who they are, and you're contributing nothing by trying to call out anyone on this particular thread.

[ChriswUfGator]

I would like to see factual documentation that Stephen is boring.

And I want some factual documentation that explains why an endless pile of backstabbing and subversionary emails by the Executive Director of the organization apparently don't count as 'factual documentation'. LOL

I mean, honestly, how much more 'factual' and 'documented' could it possibly get? You guys remember back in college, you had secondary and primary sources, right? You're kvetching that the primary source isn't a secondary source? ROFL Then watch, as soon as someone speaks, it will be dismissed as "hearsay"! Too funny...

At the end of the day Louise's words speak for themselves...

[Dan B]

Chris, why do you even care? So far I have seen you contribute nothing to the community on any front, and so far are a constant source of negativity. Why not take over the Southside thread?

[ChriswUfGator]

^ Chris, because we are all involved in the actual Springfield neighborhood most of us know that these are actual people that are passionate about their neighborhood and are signing up to speak about the issue.

This isn't your precious Moon River thread, most have said who they are, and you're contributing nothing by trying to call out anyone on this particular thread.

First, it wasn't "my" moon river thread, nor is it "precious" to me. I didn't start it, Dan did. The only reason I brought it up was because the same thing happened there that is happening here, with the just-registered-screename that seems to know a bit too much, and uses the same language and tone as the 5 screenames that were registered 10 minutes before. Come on...

And while I agree that two of the newbies have identified themselves or at least alluded to who they are, the others do appear to be the same person or people switching screenames. Or like I said, even if you are going to suspend disbelief and assume they're all actually different people, then you have to wonder where they're getting the info, and who's telling them all to say the same stuff.

[ChriswUfGator]

Chris, why do you even care? So far I have seen you contribute nothing to the community on any front, and so far are a constant source of negativity. Why not take over the Southside thread?

LOL, speak of the devil! And BTW, you wanna be the pot, the kettle, or the stove on that comment?

Yeah I contribute nothing, whatever. You're great at directing attention everywhere BUT Louise's e-mails. It seems that just by not knocking down historic structures, I'm contributing more than SPAR.

And you don't see a problem with that?

[Dan B]

Sure. How many houses in Springfield have you lived in, in that time?? How about your wife and children? At least Joe and Gloria used to live here, and at least they can honestly say at the end of the day, they have made the houses they own better than when they got them. Can you say that?

[jason_contentdg]

^ There's more similarities then that actually.  We also have a he said/she said case here as well.  The is obviously an issue that needs to be addressed and there is nothing that the majority posting can do in the matter, yet that's not stopping anyone from letting their emotions get the best of them.

The only we to ensure resolution in the future is to get involved.  I like the idea of more transparency and good, efficient solutions to making Springfield a better place.

[jason_contentdg]

This is about Louise and Claude.

48 pages of Louise and Claude?

[ChriswUfGator]

Sure. How many houses in Springfield have you lived in, in that time?? How about your wife and children? At least Joe and Gloria used to live here, and at least they can honestly say at the end of the day, they have made the houses they own better than when they got them. Can you say that?

Haha, no, I never lived in Springfield. You got me there. I know these are fighting words, but the neighborhood is probably still not to the point where I'd actually live there myself. But I owned a lot property, did a lot of renovations, and never once tore a damned thing down. And when I got stuck in properties that were beyond the scope of my financial abilities (and it happens, with these old termite-traps there's ALWAYS something the inspections miss), I either just borrowed more money and took a loss, or I flipped it to an investor who I knew would complete the rehab.

I can think of at least 5 or 6 properties that were either condemned or green-tagged when I bought them, and they're probably still around because of me. Some of them have fallen back into disrepair, like the set of duplexes at 445 E. 1st. Others have been very well-maintained, and continue to contribute to the historic fabric of the neighborhood, like the 4-plex I did at 1719 Perry Street.

Either way, maybe you should hear me again: I. Never. Once. Tore. Anything. Down.

And again, you're great at directing attention everywhere but where it needs to be. Namely Louise's emails.

[ChriswUfGator]

^ There's more similarities then that actually.  We also have a he said/she said case here as well.

Ah come on, that's a blatant mischaracterization. Louise wrote her own e-mails, nobody put words in her mouth.

There is no "he said / she said". "She" spoke for herself. In her own words. It's all there in black and white.

[jason_contentdg]

^ You've see one email. And endless pages of conjecture.

[ChriswUfGator]

^ You've see one email. And endless pages of conjecture.

There are a half dozen emails posted up in different threads, including this one. It's hardly one random email.

[cindi]

Chris, why do you even care? So far I have seen you contribute nothing to the community on any front, and so far are a constant source of negativity. Why not take over the Southside thread?

LOL, speak of the devil! And BTW, you wanna be the pot, the kettle, or the stove on that comment?

Yeah I contribute nothing, whatever. You're great at directing attention everywhere BUT Louise's e-mails. It seems that just by not knocking down historic structures, I'm contributing more than SPAR.

And you don't see a problem with that?

actually there is another thread directed specifically at the "pile of emails".  
and just a question that was never answered, how many post do you have to register before you can post to a real topic of concern? and can those be post that just tell everyone that you have posted more post than everyone else and have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand?
perhaps since this thread has nothing to do with a spar revolt but instead "thelma and louise"  oops claude and louise it should be changed.  

[jason_contentdg]

Again, I'm going to wait until the whole story comes out before passing any judgment. Not that anyone involved cares.  Until then, let's get this sucker to 100 pages, I guess.