Losing Springfield

Started by Metro Jacksonville, June 24, 2013, 03:01:40 AM

sheclown

Carolyn, this photo's for you!! 


Now, back on track and fully functional!

Six panel, six feet, monster pocket door.

Carolyn

 ;D BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! I love a good pocket door!


Quote from: sheclown on June 28, 2013, 05:56:29 PM
Carolyn, this photo's for you!! 


Now, back on track and fully functional!

Six panel, six feet, monster pocket door.

Debbie Thompson

Wow.  Just wow. That's one thing I miss about our last house.  The enormous, amazing pocket doors in the living room.  That said, I don't miss the stairs.  There are things to be said for bungalows when you are, shall we say, " of a certain age?"  But I love pocket doors.

sheclown

http://www.myspringfield.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=1621

back in October of 2011, we were told NSP3 sources were available to demolish the so-called formal track homes.

sheclown

#64
PSOS did a public records request for this property along with 129 East 2nd Street.  Although it took awhile, we did get the records this week.  We were hoping to get some info on what MetroNorth was planning to do with the property.  Those records are there.

Additionally, there is this lovely nugget.





FWIW, I was that "attendee".

Additonally, for what it is worth, the city spent in excess of $10k to demolish.  Removing that front gable over the porch, or bracing it, would have been significantly less than $10k.

However, the flip disregard for historic properties shown by Crescimbeni, is quite alarming as well.

sheclown

What I found equally funny is threads from Metrojacksonville in the city's files.

sheclown

The appraised value on 253 East 2nd Street as it sits was $42k.  The finished rehab appraisal came in at $194,000 

This appraisal was done early this year for Metro North.

sheclown


sheclown

Springfield...you are on your own.

strider

#69
Just for the record, no one had asked MCC or the city to rehabilitate or restore one of the houses.  They have been asked to brace and mothball, which, by the way, is allowed for by ordinance. In fact, the ordinances require them to use the least intrusive means possible when dealing with these historic structures, yet they consistently use the most destructive means possible.  Mothballing would be less than demolition 95% of the time.  Bracing 129 East 2nd street would have potentially saved the city $ 200,000.00.  Waiting just one month until closing by the city would have seen NSP funds used to restore 253 East 2nd street instead of the city spending $14,000.00 to demolish it and putting the city once again on the hook for a potential $ 200.000.00 lawsuit. Though in an e-mail, Ms Scott does complain that it might have been a whole 3 months before the City would have begun that rehab.

Perhaps it is Ms Scott and Mr Crescimbini should use those Lenscrafters coupons themselves so they can read the ordinances and then get themselves some hearing aids so that can hear what is actually being said instead of just making stuff up as they go.
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

sheclown

YOU MAY SAY I'M DREAMER...I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.

strider

Quote from: stephendare on August 18, 2013, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: sheclown on August 18, 2013, 05:24:18 PM


gulliford is also an ass.  And he isnt term limited.

The city program Ms Kimberly Scott was referring to in her e-mail was the 1998 Springfield Auction that kicked off an intensive push to kick start the revitalization of Historic Springfield.  I believe a total of 11 houses were sold at the auction itself and deals closed on another 2 afterwards.  The auction prices were actually high for Springfield at the time (the area had been redlined) and so the city always knew it was going to provide that gap funding between real values and what it actually cost to rehab the houses. Only one house went "through the roof" cost wise when it was found after the work begun that major structural and windows issues were present.  For the most part, the houses were about at what was expected. 

In the for what it's worth department, the buyers of that house that went so far over are still living in it and enjoying it.  The program, and the Federal Funds spent did exactly what they were intended to do.

That said, this has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.  Ms Scott brought it up as a smoke screen to help justify her continued abuse of the power given to her.  And, of course,  her need to spend that $ 400,000.00 of NSP funding she has available to her.

Also, as no one from RAP spent seven or eight years speaking FOR demolitions like SPAR Council did, as I suspect no one from RAP or the other historic areas has their leadership making multiple phone calls supporting demolitions like Ms Scott has eluded to about Springfield, Ms Scott is exactly right, the issues in Springfield are indeed very different that the other Historic Areas.

"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

Debbie Thompson

#72
Good Golly, Miss Molly!  The City is STILL whining about the ONE house that went over budget FIFTEEN years ago in the effort to kick off the restoration of Springfield?    How much in property taxes have restored Springfield homes brought the city in property taxes, huh?  Way more than $200,000, I promise you. 

And Kimberly Scott is lying and making stuff up?  Big surprise.  As stated above, we do not expect MCCD to rehab houses. We expect them, as required by city ordinance to stabilize them, in the least intrusive way possible, instead of demolish them.  In my opinion, she jut lied in writing to our City Council. I'm open to being wrong, though.  Kimberly Scott, just post the email where you are asked to rehab even one house in Springfield. 

And while we are talking about the budget for buildings...hmm...let's see now.  Just HOW much OVER BUDGET did the new Taj Mahal  oops Courthouse go? 

sheclown

I have to modify what I said previously.

Springfield has had CM Lumb -- thank you, sir, for standing by us and sticking up for us on historic preservation.

m74reeves

clearly kim scott serves great koolaid.

our council members need to be a little more hands on about what's going on.

it's easier to ignore springfield b/c in general the income level there is lower than in riverside or avondale, the homes are older, and there have been conflicting (and self serving) interests within the neighborhood. it makes it hard for the city to care and easy for them to swallow whatever line scott feeds them.

open your eyes, city council!!!
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