253 east 2nd st: Another "emergency demo". Happening now

Started by sheclown, June 21, 2013, 02:06:18 PM

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sheclown

June 21, 2013, 02:06:18 PM Last Edit: June 21, 2013, 06:37:32 PM by sheclown
2nd and liberty coming down right now



253 East 2nd Street

02roadking

#1
June 21, 2013, 02:28:00 PM
Thats a shame. I guess they tasted the blood from 129 E 2nd and now their off to the races.
Springfield since 1998

icarus

#2
June 21, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
Demolition by  neglect??? the one house at 2nd and Liberty has sat vacant for over a decade if I remember correctly.

Bridges

#3
June 21, 2013, 03:30:52 PM
The green one on the corner?  That thing had an awesome 2nd floor balcony. 
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

fsujax

#4
June 21, 2013, 03:52:39 PM
Guess I will get to see this on my way home today. wonderful.

carpnter

#5
June 21, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
I guess Ms. Scott is showing she is not someone to be messed with. 

If the house is danger of collapsing I can understand an emergency demolition but the pictures on Google Maps show that the problem areas have been shored up.  What made demolishing this house an emergency?

strider

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June 21, 2013, 05:17:36 PM Last Edit: June 21, 2013, 05:25:20 PM by strider
As the laws read and as the precedent has been set by how she got away with it with the 2nd st house (just a couple of blocks down the road from this one) and the Office of General counsel there to protect her, all Ms Scott needs to take any house as an emergency is her own say so.  She has the power to say your house needs to go as an emergency and probably get away with it. 

I do not think she is showing us she is not to be messed with, she is truly showing us that she is someone who needs to go.  A five year old bully strutting her stuff and seeking revenge is not someone who should be running an important city department. A five year old bully should not be someone dealing with the lives and properties of others . 

We, the public, need to show her that we are not to be messed with.
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

Debbie Thompson

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June 21, 2013, 05:22:22 PM Last Edit: June 21, 2013, 05:24:09 PM by Debbie Thompson
It wasn't an emergency, nor was it in danger of collapse.  It was a school yard bully, I can do what I want and you can't stop me, slap in the face from MCCD to local preservationists who are fighting to save our history, since apparently our City has contempt instead of respect for its history.

MCCD will doubtless tell you it was a matter of public safety, but I wouldn't believe it for a second. 

I took pictures, as I saw them start on my way home from an errand downtown about 1:30.  The entire inside was structurally sound.  The studs look new.  The piers look new.  The house was not sagging.  The porch was failing in places, but they could have removed just that part.  That's what they used to do. 

And yes, the owner should have fixed the porch. No argument. But the City has the ability to do repairs with their funds instead of demo.  In fact, it's the law they preserve historic homes.  MCCD refuses to follow the law that says they are to preserve our historic homes.

Cheshire Cat

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June 21, 2013, 05:23:12 PM Last Edit: June 21, 2013, 05:28:02 PM by Cheshire Cat
Quote from: carpnter on June 21, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
I guess Ms. Scott is showing she is not someone to be messed with. 

If the house is danger of collapsing I can understand an emergency demolition but the pictures on Google Maps show that the problem areas have been shored up.  What made demolishing this house an emergency?
You can bet the sentiments of Scott will be a factor in much of what happens regarding how rapidly we see tear downs in Springfield.  Someone needs to get in front of these orders as they are issued.  It will likely take a person physically going to the department Scott overseas and asking to see the current listing of any demo orders upcoming for at least a month out.  They should also ask to see any requests for demo's being pushed as emergencies.  They cannot deny any citizen the right to access and view the job orders and instructions for demo that Kim Scott or her employees request.  I would also let the Council know about this new emergency tear down and send a copy to Cheryl Brown.  Not only would I email Kimberly Daniels, I would call her too.  Not because I think she is a heartfelt preservationist, but because I know there is a contest of egos going on.  Note, a member of council like Daniels can "instruct" Scott to send any and all requests for demo's emergency or otherwise for any given period of time.  Keep in mind that Scott does not have to approve the release of these documents, it is the right of citizens to view them under the Sunshine Law and you can make the request of anyone in that department.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Debbie Thompson

#9
June 21, 2013, 05:27:51 PM
Kim Pryor and Gloria DeVall came when I saw what was happening and called them.  Kim called Kimberly Daniels before she even got there, but her office said she wasn't there.  I snapped a few pictures and took some video, but could only stay a few minutes because I was on my lunch hour.  So sad.

MikeMac

#10
June 21, 2013, 05:33:59 PM
Wow. Is there anyway to stop these demo's through a court proceeding? I'll chip in $50 towards a filing fee.
Kudos to all of you that keep on top of these things.

Lunican

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June 21, 2013, 05:58:30 PM

Cheshire Cat

#12
June 21, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
Quote from: Lunican on June 21, 2013, 05:58:30 PM

Is the the same house that Gloria was talking about or another one?
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

sheclown

#13
June 21, 2013, 06:12:14 PM


emergency, my ass
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