Live Blogging from City Council: Mobility Fee Moratorium

Started by TheCat, February 26, 2013, 04:58:00 PM

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Bridges

#60
February 26, 2013, 08:29:02 PM
Quote from: TheCat on February 26, 2013, 08:27:00 PM

Explains the moratorium that the fees incentivize in fill. With out the fee structure the Mobility Plan is useless. They are selling
lake did you catch what he said about the Health Council?

He said health costs of hurt cyclists cost the city $40 million
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

Bridges

#61
February 26, 2013, 08:29:51 PM
Quote from: TheCat on February 26, 2013, 08:28:34 PM
I missed that. What happened?

Clark walked out, and ms brimmer said,"i thought this was his bill.  I don't know if i should feel insulted".
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

TheCat

#62
February 26, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
Paul B. of the 5 Points Merchants Association. The merchants discussed pedestrian safety in 5 points. They were horrified to learn that if the moratorium had not been in place they would have seen $900k to help fix their mobility issues.

40 million...just in jax?

TheCat

#63
February 26, 2013, 08:32:57 PM
Self described injured cyclist: All of the organizations he is a part of are against this. He makes the point all of the people who are for this (speaking) are paid. Everyone else speaks with out financial motive.

I wish I was keeping tabs. So far, overwhelmingly, the speakers have been against the moratorium.

Bridges

#64
February 26, 2013, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: TheCat on February 26, 2013, 08:32:57 PM
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I wish I was keeping tabs. So far, overwhelmingly, the speakers have been against the moratorium.

A lot of cards in support but no speaker.  Hmmm.
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

thelakelander

#65
February 26, 2013, 08:34:37 PM
Why is everyone who is in support, does not wish to speak?  Kind of appears that a large group has been asked to fill out cards in support but in reality, they have no clue of what's being debated.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

thelakelander

#66
February 26, 2013, 08:36:25 PM
Quote from: Bridges on February 26, 2013, 08:29:51 PM
Quote from: TheCat on February 26, 2013, 08:28:34 PM
I missed that. What happened?

Clark walked out, and ms brimmer said,"i thought this was his bill.  I don't know if i should feel insulted".

Don't take offense. Clark could care less about what the public has to say on this issue.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

TheCat

#67
February 26, 2013, 08:39:13 PM
Speaker: lives near 9a and Baymeadows. MBA grad. He is opposed to the moratorium. He is the president of the NE FL bicycle club. He has noticed that his friends are passionate about bicycle road planning. He has visited two cities and made note to see how other cities plan for bicyclist. In Chicago bicyclists feel like they belong (not like Jacksonville). He saw road signs just for bikers. He mentioned that in Seattle pedestrians wave a flag as they cross the road and all the vehicles slow down for them.

Current Speaker: Time wasted in a car, for her personally, will be 5 years because the amount of time it takes for her to travel each day to take care of life.

Cheshire Cat

#68
February 26, 2013, 08:41:06 PM
No reason to take offense Ennis when someone speaks the truth. Clark leaving a meeting when the conversation is not supportive is a classic move of his.  He is looking out for his buddies with this bill.  That man has more backdoor dealings than you can shake a stick at. 

Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

fieldafm

#69
February 26, 2013, 08:41:26 PM
Just to keep score, there are over two dozen organizations (ranging from citizen planning councils, neighborhood organizations, health organizations, merchant associations, city commissions and transportation advocacy organizations) that have come out against the moratorium. 

But, that's all 'noise'.

TheCat

#70
February 26, 2013, 08:42:41 PM
QuoteA lot of cards in support but no speaker.  Hmmm.

Speaker fraud!

Current Speaker: The moratorium is a form of crony capitalism that moves against free market capitalism. You will not be able to get people to stay here if you do not build up the infrastructure that people expect for a good quality of life.

thelakelander

#71
February 26, 2013, 08:43:27 PM
Years ago, I used to be excited about infrastructure like Chicago's bike network because it was something that we just didn't have in Jacksonville.  Now I've come to the realization that most places (larger and smaller) have well maintained public parks, landscaped streets, connected bike and pedestrian networks, etc.  Now it's frustrating that we struggle with things that the rest of the country resolved and moved on years ago.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Cheshire Cat

#73
February 26, 2013, 08:44:34 PM
Daniel Davis had plenty of his own "noise".  Job's bill....
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

thelakelander

#74
February 26, 2013, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on February 26, 2013, 08:41:06 PM
No reason to take offense Ennis when someone speaks the truth. Clark leaving a meeting when the conversation is not supportive is a classic move of his.  He is looking out for his buddies with this bill.  That man has more backdoor dealings than you can shake a stick at.

No offense taken.  I'm just not surprised he left.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali
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