Red Light Camera Locator Map

[Metro Jacksonville]

Red Light Camera Locator Map



Now that red light cameras are being installed at several major intersections across town, it's only fitting that we provide our readers with a list and map of the camera locations.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-feb-red-light-camera-locator-map

[Redbaron616]

Thank you for the locations. Red light cameras are all about revenue, not safety. Many accidents are caused by people realizing it is a red light intersection and slamming on their brakes which causes them to often be rear-ended.

It is also a fact that longer yellow lights are as much of a safety factor or more so than cameras. Typically, when cameras are installed, yellow lights are often shortened to boost revenue. MetroJacksonville might want to time the yellow lights and check them again every six months.

What happens if you loan your car to a relative or friend while theirs is in the shop? Why should the ticket come to the vehicle when every other ticket goes to the actual driver? Lastly, I think the cameras should have to have a picture of the car AND the actual stoplight in it to ensure honestly.

[Adam W]

Thank you for the locations. Red light cameras are all about revenue, not safety. Many accidents are caused by people realizing it is a red light intersection and slamming on their brakes which causes them to often be rear-ended.

It is also a fact that longer yellow lights are as much of a safety factor or more so than cameras. Typically, when cameras are installed, yellow lights are often shortened to boost revenue. MetroJacksonville might want to time the yellow lights and check them again every six months.

What happens if you loan your car to a relative or friend while theirs is in the shop? Why should the ticket come to the vehicle when every other ticket goes to the actual driver? Lastly, I think the cameras should have to have a picture of the car AND the actual stoplight in it to ensure honestly.

What you have stated isn't necessarily true. There seems to be a lot of cherry-picking of data to support particular views on both sides of this topic. For example, I have posted links below that claim to show that red light cameras actually increase safety (one is a news story quoting IIHS data and the other is a link to IIHS info).

I don't think there is a clear consensus of whether or not traffic light cameras increase or decrease safety. I also think that while it's fair to say some cities may use them as a revenue-generation scheme, not all do or should and that the motivation for the installation of these cameras is not solely the generation of revenue (at least not in all cases). I personally think the motivation should be safety, but that's not to say everyone agrees with me.

People repeat that old chestnut about the increasing number of collisions that result from drivers slamming on their brakes. That might be true - though it would seem that if it were true, it would be likely the increase in such accidents would be short-lived as people became used to the presence of the cameras at the particular intersections. Once established, the occurrence of such accidents should taper off over time. You'll see in the link below that, while there appears to be a 15% increase in rear-end collisions, another study showed no statistically significant increase. And there is a decrease in other types of accidents. And there is a net decrease in accidents.

At the end of the day, you can have a traffic light camera or you can have a cop hiding near an intersection - does it really make a difference? I you run a red light, you get a ticket. If you see the cop at the last minute, you are just as likely to slam on your brakes.

I understand there are issues about who is driving the car and how the red light camera cannot necessarily show that (although I remember an episode of The King of Queens that clearly showed Doug and Deacon running a red light in a rented Ferrari... but I digress).

It would be wrong (and I believe it is actually illegal) for the length of the yellow light to be decreased. That's not to say some unscrupulous types wouldn't try it.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/01/03/hated-red-light-cameras-reduce-accidents/

http://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/rlr.aspx

[acme54321]

I think it's relatively easy to get these tickets thrown out in court if the driver is not identifiable.  The question is it worth the hassle vs sucking it up and giving them $158.

[BridgeTroll]

Thank you for the locations. Red light cameras are all about revenue, not safety. Many accidents are caused by people realizing it is a red light intersection and slamming on their brakes which causes them to often be rear-ended.

It is also a fact that longer yellow lights are as much of a safety factor or more so than cameras. Typically, when cameras are installed, yellow lights are often shortened to boost revenue. MetroJacksonville might want to time the yellow lights and check them again every six months.

What happens if you loan your car to a relative or friend while theirs is in the shop? Why should the ticket come to the vehicle when every other ticket goes to the actual driver? Lastly, I think the cameras should have to have a picture of the car AND the actual stoplight in it to ensure honestly.

Yellow lights are long enough... IF... you are driving at the speed limit.  Even 10 MPH over adds quite a bit to your stopping distance.

[blfair]

I think it's relatively easy to get these tickets thrown out in court if the driver is not identifiable.  The question is it worth the hassle vs sucking it up and giving them $158.

The way I understand it, you can't contest the $158 "notice of violation", which is just a request for payment from the private firm that runs the cameras. The only way to contest it, is to not respond to that notice. At that point, they'll send you an actual traffic citation. If you pay it, it's more (>$250), and comes with points -- BUT you are given the chance to contest it in court like any other ticket.

They've setup a system that will almost guarantee no one contests the ticket -- it's a double or nothing bet.

[bubbalooey]

Putting a uniformed officer to police the intersections helps stop the light runners while he is watching, once he is gone, it will continue. Hopefully these camera's will cut down on accidents.  The people who rear-end people are also the red light runners, most negative comments on here are from these very same people who shouldn't have a drivers license.  I hope eventually they put speed sensors in the road to catch all the speeders. The person responsible for the ticket is the owner of the car, he/she should know who was operating it the day the ticket was issued.  They need the camera's at every intersection and stop sign.

[mbwright]

Normally, if you were not the driver of your vehicle, there is an affidavit that you would sign, and you indicate who was driving,(friend, brother, neighbor, etc.) and then they would get the ticket.  This also works if you rent a vehicle, the rental company has the registration, but if you ran the light, they will identify who had the rental at the time.

[David]

Good info. I just did a California stop at the Claire/San Jose intersection this morning.  Hopefully they're not too strict when it comes to right on reds.

[mbwright]

Right on Red is often enforced.  For all intersections, stop at the stop bar.  This is the line that goes across the lane.  This before the crosswalk lines, if there are any.  The stop bar can be a good distance before where you think you should stop.

[David]

It's usually far enough back to where you can't see any oncoming traffic.

When you have the main road making left turns that it really tempts you to not stop. But, I don't feel like getting a ticket. So that's easy remedied.

We are still in the "trial" phase I assume correct? When will actual citations start being issued?

[If_I_Loved_you]

If this Red Light system is So Perfect why have so many cities around the Country getten rid of these Red Light camera's?

[FSBA]

Putting a uniformed officer to police the intersections helps stop the light runners while he is watching, once he is gone, it will continue. Hopefully these camera's will cut down on accidents.  The people who rear-end people are also the red light runners, most negative comments on here are from these very same people who shouldn't have a drivers license.  I hope eventually they put speed sensors in the road to catch all the speeders. The person responsible for the ticket is the owner of the car, he/she should know who was operating it the day the ticket was issued.  They need the camera's at every intersection and stop sign.

[FSBA]

Good info. I just did a California stop at the Claire/San Jose intersection this morning.  Hopefully they're not too strict when it comes to right on reds.

I know one study AAA did found that almost 3/4ths of the tickets issued in by RLCs were for right on red violations so your odds aren't great

[David]

To answer what David asked earlier:

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-01-30/story/grace-period-begins-3-red-light-cameras-jacksonville

There's basically a grace period until the beginning of March. After that, it's on.