ESPN Reports Tebow to Jags

Started by spuwho, December 22, 2012, 09:39:55 PM

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Quote from: thelakelander on April 30, 2013, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: TD* on April 30, 2013, 04:54:12 PM
I will never understand why people continue to bash a man that is a heisman winner, 2 time national champion, and played well his first year in the NFL.

Stop the hate.

They should be attempting to address replacing Jake Long at left tackle.

Maybe that's the plan....  ;)
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TD*

It just irks me when something gets popular and everyone piles on top because its cool to hate on somebody, its pathetic. Shame on you all.

TD*

Also, why do guys talk about sports like its a religion? Everyone thinks they know whats best for every team, I call it armchair politics.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: TD* on April 30, 2013, 05:37:23 PM
Also, why do guys talk about sports like its a religion? Everyone thinks they know whats best for every team, I call it armchair politics.


re·li·gion
[ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.


Because we are observing people doing superhuman things and we ritually watch them at certain times of the year while observing our own set of moral (and other) codes.

Difference is, we can actually see, hear, smell, touch and taste (especially Rothisberger if you're a young female at a club) our deities.   Where's the problem?
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Wacca Pilatka

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Quote from: TD* on April 30, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
Why do so many people hate on tebow? hes an incredible gifted athlete, who is a model person on and off the field.

Why don't I care for Tebow?

Because he and his family/handlers have repeatedly used Jacksonville as a bargaining chip in a way that has been embarrassing to the city and its national image, starting from the "Just draft him!" radio and T-shirt campaign in 2009, thus resulting in an endless barrage of national reports ridiculing Jacksonville as a minor league hick town that would only "sell some tickets" if a local boy were on the roster, regardless of his NFL ability level.  (These typically emanate from media sources that don't believe Tebow has the tools to succeed as a quarterback, but that he is the only thing Jacksonville will pay to watch regardless.)

Because the Jaguars have many players who are charitable, community oriented, and men of faith who are constantly ignored amidst the media rush to glorify Tebow for being a model person - to the extent that there is actually a vocal segment of sports fans in Jacksonville who don't believe the Jaguars have any Christian or charitable athletes and need Tebow to set an example for the team.  (Just watch; this will start up again after the Blackmon incident.)

Because a lot of us believe he's not a good quarterback and never will be, but are instantly branded as anti-Christian bigots or "haters" for harboring this belief, thanks to the incredibly devoted Tebow fan base.

Because we constantly hear what a humble, team-oriented guy Tebow is, despite his having charged $160 for autographs at the Avenues Mall, and his attention-grasping photo shoots and "I work harder than anyone else" proclamations, as well as the recent, unsurprising revelation that he refused to consider a position switch when teams asked if he would do so if they traded for him.

Because I could not conceive of the world using the term "Wacca Pilatka-ing" to describe a prayer posture of mine and my then not doing anything with my gigantic media attention platform to tell people to stop that.  Or accepting people's requests to autograph their Bibles.

Because after four long years, I'm sick to death of "He'd save the franchise," "He'd sell some tickets," "Elway only traded him because he was scared that another quarterback might upstage his legacy," and countless other neurotically repeated flights of delusion.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

TD*

Its fine to dislike somebody for personal reasons, but i feel like its kind of out of hand. hating a person you most likely dont know in real life.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on April 30, 2013, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: TD* on April 30, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
Why do so many people hate on tebow? hes an incredible gifted athlete, who is a model person on and off the field.

Why don't I care for Tebow?

Because he and his family/handlers have repeatedly used Jacksonville as a bargaining chip in a way that has been embarrassing to the city and its national image, starting from the "Just draft him!" radio and T-shirt campaign in 2009, thus resulting in an endless barrage of national reports ridiculing Jacksonville as a minor league hick town that would only "sell some tickets" if a local boy were on the roster, regardless of his NFL ability level.  (These typically emanate from media sources that don't believe Tebow has the tools to succeed as a quarterback, but that he is the only thing Jacksonville will pay to watch regardless.)

Because the Jaguars have many players who are charitable, community oriented, and men of faith who are constantly ignored amidst the media rush to glorify Tebow for being a model person - to the extent that there is actually a vocal segment of sports fans in Jacksonville who don't believe the Jaguars have any Christian or charitable athletes and need Tebow to set an example for the team.  (Just watch; this will start up again after the Blackmon incident.)

Because a lot of us believe he's not a good quarterback and never will be, but are instantly branded as anti-Christian bigots or "haters" for harboring this belief, thanks to the incredibly devoted Tebow fan base.

Because we constantly hear what a humble, team-oriented guy Tebow is, despite his having charged $160 for autographs at the Avenues Mall, and his attention-grasping photo shoots and "I work harder than anyone else" proclamations, as well as the recent, unsurprising revelation that he refused to consider a position switch when teams asked if he would do so if they traded for him.

Because I could not conceive of the world using the term "Wacca Pilatka-ing" to describe a prayer posture of mine and my then not doing anything with my gigantic media attention platform to tell people to stop that.  Or accepting people's requests to autograph their Bibles.

Because after four long years, I'm sick to death of "He'd save the franchise," "He'd sell some tickets," "Elway only traded him because he was scared that another quarterback might upstage his legacy," and countless other neurotically repeated flights of delusion.

I've been waiting patiently for about 3 years to see Wacca post this!!!!   

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Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: TD* on April 30, 2013, 05:46:49 PM
Its fine to dislike somebody for personal reasons, but i feel like its kind of out of hand. hating a person you most likely dont know in real life.

I wish him the best of success in life.  I hope he is very successful with his sharing his faith with others and that he inspires people.  I hope he makes a mint with his chicken restaurants and shares his wealth with quality charities, as he seems to do.  I hope he has a happy life full of family and friends.

I do not want him to be my team's quarterback, and I don't appreciate his and his entourage's having used Jacksonville as a tool for four years and caused national media ridicule of the city.

If that's your definition of "hate," consult a dictionary.
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TD*

Wacca, That is a very professional response, and I like it. You could have said that to begin with.

Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on April 30, 2013, 05:46:57 PM
I've been waiting patiently for about 3 years to see Wacca post this!!!!   

+a google

OK, now I'm waiting for you to have more fun with the SEC guy on Facebook who said Gabbert went to "East Nowhere State" and ridiculed you for going to Clemson. :D
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Henry J. Klutho

Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: TD* on April 30, 2013, 05:51:23 PM
Wacca, That is a very professional response, and I like it. You could have said that to begin with.

I'm sure that most of the people who are not pulling for Tebow in football, or don't want him on the Jaguars, or resent some of the embarrassment he's (indirectly) caused the city, are not "hateful" toward him as a person. 
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on April 30, 2013, 05:52:27 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on April 30, 2013, 05:46:57 PM
I've been waiting patiently for about 3 years to see Wacca post this!!!!   

+a google

OK, now I'm waiting for you to have more fun with the SEC guy on Facebook who said Gabbert went to "East Nowhere State" and ridiculed you for going to Clemson. :D

What else was there to say...  when those types start, I can't stop laughing because I keep hearing Prisco's, "Essss  Eeeeeee Seeeeeee" in my head.  It's too distracting. 
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KenFSU

Quote from: TD* on April 30, 2013, 05:36:22 PM
It just irks me when something gets popular and everyone piles on top because its cool to hate on somebody, its pathetic. Shame on you all.

Very few people have expressed an ounce of dislike for Tim Tebow the man. The prevailing opinionated is not an NFL caliber quarterback isn't a personal attack, but rather a reasonable opinion that happen to  be shared by every NFL front office in the league.  He could try his luck at a different position, and is athletic enough to make a go at it, but he refuses to play anything other than QB. His style pretty much dictates that his team would have to build a specialized offense from the ground up for Tebow, which is objectively very hard to justify for a guy who has completed less than half of his NFL passes and has had trouble putting points on the board throughout. It's not about hate. The cult of personality that surrounds him can be a little annoying, but you're not going to find a whole lot of people arguing that he's a bad guy.

All that said, let's not forget the fact that Jacksonville has every right to bash the guy. He had the choice between returning home to Jacksonville last year and joining our Jaguars, or going to New York and playing for the Jets. He chose NY, and look at how well that worked out. Nice guy, yes, but Jacksonville shouldn't accept being a Plan B or sloppy seconds for anyone.

I-10east

Wacca hit the nail on the head. Another thing that I hate are when these Tebow/Gator fans who don't like the Jags brainwash all of their family (many whom have no freaking clue about sports) into believing that "Tebow would save the Jags". So now you have these senior citizens who don't like sports preaching the Tebow BS because their freaking Jag hating grandson told them some off the wall s@*t like "the Jags are gonna move to LA because they didn't get Tebow". I witnessed this crap for myself with my Mom's friends talking BS to her; My mom is a Jag fan, and she don't even let it get to her because she knows better.

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Just for some personal perspective, TD*, this is what I posted yesterday regarding Tebow:

QuoteThere are those of us who could give a rat's a about his faith. Quite honestly, I think he has / had plenty of potential to be a good (not great) football player, just not a QB.

I truly believe his held back by a rabid fan base that's either all or nothing regarding him playing.

Most intelligent fans share a similar viewpoint.  Problem is 'intelligent fan' is somewhat of an oxymoron. 
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