Southern Rock

[Tacachale]

With another passing of these Southern Rock greats and the resurgence of Country/Southern Rock, it is time for Jax to do a better job of embracing its roots here and honoring these guys.

Growing up in Jax, I got sick to my back teeth having to hear about Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc all the time. I think Jax does more than enough. Time to stop living in the past.

Except the casual fan has no idea they are from Jax or about Jax's role in Southern Rock. Most probably think they are from Alabama. You got to embrace what organically makes you unique as a city. I am sure the folks in Seattle hate talking about Grunge Music and Nirvana but they milk it for all its worth. I don't know if anyone hates Elvis, but I am sure you would have hated Elvis and Sun Records if you grew up in Memphis and had to hear about them too 

We play their music here, talk about them, and whatnot, there's no real commemoration of Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, or Southern Rock in general around town. No statues, preserved homes, permanent exhibits, etc. In contrast, Boston has markers at some significant locations, such as former clubs and Aerosmith's apartment (and Aerosmith is objectively lamer than Skynyrd). Augusta has a statue of James Brown, an arena named after the guy, and exhibits at the local museum. Macon, GA has an Allman Brothers Museum in a house where the band once lived. There's a Ronnie Van Zant memorial park, and I think maybe a marker at the Van Zants' childhood home, but there's little else formal that would tell you that two important bands and a notable rock genre started here. And that goes beyond Southern Rock to other musicians from Jacksonville (ragtime blues guitarist Blind Blake, jazz musician Sam Jones, country performer Tim McGraw, etc.), even the Johnson brothers are criminally under-celebrated in their home town.

[Adam White]

With another passing of these Southern Rock greats and the resurgence of Country/Southern Rock, it is time for Jax to do a better job of embracing its roots here and honoring these guys.

Growing up in Jax, I got sick to my back teeth having to hear about Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc all the time. I think Jax does more than enough. Time to stop living in the past.

Except the casual fan has no idea they are from Jax or about Jax's role in Southern Rock. Most probably think they are from Alabama. You got to embrace what organically makes you unique as a city. I am sure the folks in Seattle hate talking about Grunge Music and Nirvana but they milk it for all its worth. I don't know if anyone hates Elvis, but I am sure you would have hated Elvis and Sun Records if you grew up in Memphis and had to hear about them too 

We play their music here, talk about them, and whatnot, there's no real commemoration of Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, or Southern Rock in general around town. No statues, preserved homes, permanent exhibits, etc. In contrast, Boston has markers at some significant locations, such as former clubs and Aerosmith's apartment (and Aerosmith is objectively lamer than Skynyrd). Augusta has a statue of James Brown, an arena named after the guy, and exhibits at the local museum. Macon, GA has an Allman Brothers Museum in a house where the band once lived. There's a Ronnie Van Zant memorial park, and I think maybe a marker at the Van Zants' childhood home, but there's little else formal that would tell you that two important bands and a notable rock genre started here. And that goes beyond Southern Rock to other musicians from Jacksonville (ragtime blues guitarist Blind Blake, jazz musician Sam Jones, country performer Tim McGraw, etc.), even the Johnson brothers are criminally under-celebrated in their home town.

To be fair, the Allman Brothers are more of a Macon band than a Jax band. But I am perfectly happy without any more Skynyrd crap around town.

I don't know who the Johnson Brothers are.

[Tacachale]

With another passing of these Southern Rock greats and the resurgence of Country/Southern Rock, it is time for Jax to do a better job of embracing its roots here and honoring these guys.

Growing up in Jax, I got sick to my back teeth having to hear about Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc all the time. I think Jax does more than enough. Time to stop living in the past.

Except the casual fan has no idea they are from Jax or about Jax's role in Southern Rock. Most probably think they are from Alabama. You got to embrace what organically makes you unique as a city. I am sure the folks in Seattle hate talking about Grunge Music and Nirvana but they milk it for all its worth. I don't know if anyone hates Elvis, but I am sure you would have hated Elvis and Sun Records if you grew up in Memphis and had to hear about them too 

We play their music here, talk about them, and whatnot, there's no real commemoration of Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, or Southern Rock in general around town. No statues, preserved homes, permanent exhibits, etc. In contrast, Boston has markers at some significant locations, such as former clubs and Aerosmith's apartment (and Aerosmith is objectively lamer than Skynyrd). Augusta has a statue of James Brown, an arena named after the guy, and exhibits at the local museum. Macon, GA has an Allman Brothers Museum in a house where the band once lived. There's a Ronnie Van Zant memorial park, and I think maybe a marker at the Van Zants' childhood home, but there's little else formal that would tell you that two important bands and a notable rock genre started here. And that goes beyond Southern Rock to other musicians from Jacksonville (ragtime blues guitarist Blind Blake, jazz musician Sam Jones, country performer Tim McGraw, etc.), even the Johnson brothers are criminally under-celebrated in their home town.

To be fair, the Allman Brothers are more of a Macon band than a Jax band. But I am perfectly happy without any more Skynyrd crap around town.

I don't know who the Johnson Brothers are.

James Weldon and Rosamond Johnson, who wrote "Life "Ev'ry Voice and Sing" and a number of Broadway songs in the early 20th century, among many other things.

The Macon museum exists only because people made it happen, not because the Allman Brothers are a Macon band (though Macon was obviously very important in their history). In Jacksonville, there's not even a marker at the houses they lived in here, or Willow Branch Park, where the band formed.

I'd be interested to know what "Skynyrd crap" exists that causes you such vexation; I'm not aware of any besides the park, which is in Clay County.

[BridgeTroll]

No doubt... what Skynyrd crap are you referring to?  The Skynyrd bridge?  Skynryrd Park?  Beach?  Hair salon?  Grocery?  Gun shop?  Bar or saloon?  Restaurant?  Animal shelter?

[FlaBoy]

With another passing of these Southern Rock greats and the resurgence of Country/Southern Rock, it is time for Jax to do a better job of embracing its roots here and honoring these guys.

Growing up in Jax, I got sick to my back teeth having to hear about Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc all the time. I think Jax does more than enough. Time to stop living in the past.

Except the casual fan has no idea they are from Jax or about Jax's role in Southern Rock. Most probably think they are from Alabama. You got to embrace what organically makes you unique as a city. I am sure the folks in Seattle hate talking about Grunge Music and Nirvana but they milk it for all its worth. I don't know if anyone hates Elvis, but I am sure you would have hated Elvis and Sun Records if you grew up in Memphis and had to hear about them too 

We play their music here, talk about them, and whatnot, there's no real commemoration of Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, or Southern Rock in general around town. No statues, preserved homes, permanent exhibits, etc. In contrast, Boston has markers at some significant locations, such as former clubs and Aerosmith's apartment (and Aerosmith is objectively lamer than Skynyrd). Augusta has a statue of James Brown, an arena named after the guy, and exhibits at the local museum. Macon, GA has an Allman Brothers Museum in a house where the band once lived. There's a Ronnie Van Zant memorial park, and I think maybe a marker at the Van Zants' childhood home, but there's little else formal that would tell you that two important bands and a notable rock genre started here. And that goes beyond Southern Rock to other musicians from Jacksonville (ragtime blues guitarist Blind Blake, jazz musician Sam Jones, country performer Tim McGraw, etc.), even the Johnson brothers are criminally under-celebrated in their home town.

To be fair, the Allman Brothers are more of a Macon band than a Jax band. But I am perfectly happy without any more Skynyrd crap around town.

I don't know who the Johnson Brothers are.

James Weldon and Rosamond Johnson, who wrote "Life "Ev'ry Voice and Sing" and a number of Broadway songs in the early 20th century, among many other things.

The Macon museum exists only because people made it happen, not because the Allman Brothers are a Macon band (though Macon was obviously very important in their history). In Jacksonville, there's not even a marker at the houses they lived in here, or Willow Branch Park, where the band formed.

I'd be interested to know what "Skynyrd crap" exists that causes you such vexation; I'm not aware of any besides the park, which is in Clay County.

Exactly Tacachale. Everything you said. I have been to London, New York, Seattle, Detroit, Memphis, NOLA, etc., and all of them celebrate their native music icons. One of the top things that out of towners say about Jax is we have no unique culture...well...that's because we failed to celebrate our unique culture and market it like others have. Hell, Free Bird may be the most celebrated song from that era in the entire South. It really is one of the things that makes Jax different than anywhere else.

[Adam White]

I posted an entire response and it appears to have disappeared. Normally, I'd blame "someone" but I think, given the current circumstances, it was probably just user error.

Rather than try to type the whole thing again, I'll just give you the Reader's Digest version:

The continued existence of Skynyrd and the way local radio, etc. act as if they're still relevant vexes me. The fact that Southern Rock (and Skynyrd) is valued and promoted over all other local music is irritating.

I think we should have a Jax museum of culture that covers all local music of note, our film history, our writers (even that self-obsessed fraud Stetson Kennedy could be featured), etc. And it could go where MOSH is.

Oh, and I know the Johnson brothers Tachacale was referring to. I didn't realise that was who he was talking about. I assumed, given the topic, that they were some kind of boy band or musical double-act. And not the Brothers Johnson, of course (who weren't from Jax, as far as I know).

[Adam White]

With another passing of these Southern Rock greats and the resurgence of Country/Southern Rock, it is time for Jax to do a better job of embracing its roots here and honoring these guys.

Growing up in Jax, I got sick to my back teeth having to hear about Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc all the time. I think Jax does more than enough. Time to stop living in the past.

Except the casual fan has no idea they are from Jax or about Jax's role in Southern Rock. Most probably think they are from Alabama. You got to embrace what organically makes you unique as a city. I am sure the folks in Seattle hate talking about Grunge Music and Nirvana but they milk it for all its worth. I don't know if anyone hates Elvis, but I am sure you would have hated Elvis and Sun Records if you grew up in Memphis and had to hear about them too 

We play their music here, talk about them, and whatnot, there's no real commemoration of Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, or Southern Rock in general around town. No statues, preserved homes, permanent exhibits, etc. In contrast, Boston has markers at some significant locations, such as former clubs and Aerosmith's apartment (and Aerosmith is objectively lamer than Skynyrd). Augusta has a statue of James Brown, an arena named after the guy, and exhibits at the local museum. Macon, GA has an Allman Brothers Museum in a house where the band once lived. There's a Ronnie Van Zant memorial park, and I think maybe a marker at the Van Zants' childhood home, but there's little else formal that would tell you that two important bands and a notable rock genre started here. And that goes beyond Southern Rock to other musicians from Jacksonville (ragtime blues guitarist Blind Blake, jazz musician Sam Jones, country performer Tim McGraw, etc.), even the Johnson brothers are criminally under-celebrated in their home town.

To be fair, the Allman Brothers are more of a Macon band than a Jax band. But I am perfectly happy without any more Skynyrd crap around town.

I don't know who the Johnson Brothers are.

James Weldon and Rosamond Johnson, who wrote "Life "Ev'ry Voice and Sing" and a number of Broadway songs in the early 20th century, among many other things.

The Macon museum exists only because people made it happen, not because the Allman Brothers are a Macon band (though Macon was obviously very important in their history). In Jacksonville, there's not even a marker at the houses they lived in here, or Willow Branch Park, where the band formed.

I'd be interested to know what "Skynyrd crap" exists that causes you such vexation; I'm not aware of any besides the park, which is in Clay County.

Exactly Tacachale. Everything you said. I have been to London, New York, Seattle, Detroit, Memphis, NOLA, etc., and all of them celebrate their native music icons. One of the top things that out of towners say about Jax is we have no unique culture...well...that's because we failed to celebrate our unique culture and market it like others have. Hell, Free Bird may be the most celebrated song from that era in the entire South. It really is one of the things that makes Jax different than anywhere else.

How does London celebrate its native music icons (just curious)? Aside from Blue Plaques, I can't think of anything. Blue Plaques are a good idea - even for Lynyrd Skynyrd and sub-par crap like Blackfoot and .38 Special. Maybe Jax should do that.

[FlaBoy]

With another passing of these Southern Rock greats and the resurgence of Country/Southern Rock, it is time for Jax to do a better job of embracing its roots here and honoring these guys.

Growing up in Jax, I got sick to my back teeth having to hear about Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc all the time. I think Jax does more than enough. Time to stop living in the past.

Except the casual fan has no idea they are from Jax or about Jax's role in Southern Rock. Most probably think they are from Alabama. You got to embrace what organically makes you unique as a city. I am sure the folks in Seattle hate talking about Grunge Music and Nirvana but they milk it for all its worth. I don't know if anyone hates Elvis, but I am sure you would have hated Elvis and Sun Records if you grew up in Memphis and had to hear about them too 

We play their music here, talk about them, and whatnot, there's no real commemoration of Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, or Southern Rock in general around town. No statues, preserved homes, permanent exhibits, etc. In contrast, Boston has markers at some significant locations, such as former clubs and Aerosmith's apartment (and Aerosmith is objectively lamer than Skynyrd). Augusta has a statue of James Brown, an arena named after the guy, and exhibits at the local museum. Macon, GA has an Allman Brothers Museum in a house where the band once lived. There's a Ronnie Van Zant memorial park, and I think maybe a marker at the Van Zants' childhood home, but there's little else formal that would tell you that two important bands and a notable rock genre started here. And that goes beyond Southern Rock to other musicians from Jacksonville (ragtime blues guitarist Blind Blake, jazz musician Sam Jones, country performer Tim McGraw, etc.), even the Johnson brothers are criminally under-celebrated in their home town.

To be fair, the Allman Brothers are more of a Macon band than a Jax band. But I am perfectly happy without any more Skynyrd crap around town.

I don't know who the Johnson Brothers are.

James Weldon and Rosamond Johnson, who wrote "Life "Ev'ry Voice and Sing" and a number of Broadway songs in the early 20th century, among many other things.

The Macon museum exists only because people made it happen, not because the Allman Brothers are a Macon band (though Macon was obviously very important in their history). In Jacksonville, there's not even a marker at the houses they lived in here, or Willow Branch Park, where the band formed.

I'd be interested to know what "Skynyrd crap" exists that causes you such vexation; I'm not aware of any besides the park, which is in Clay County.

Exactly Tacachale. Everything you said. I have been to London, New York, Seattle, Detroit, Memphis, NOLA, etc., and all of them celebrate their native music icons. One of the top things that out of towners say about Jax is we have no unique culture...well...that's because we failed to celebrate our unique culture and market it like others have. Hell, Free Bird may be the most celebrated song from that era in the entire South. It really is one of the things that makes Jax different than anywhere else.

How does London celebrate its native music icons (just curious)? Aside from Blue Plaques, I can't think of anything. Blue Plaques are a good idea - even for Lynyrd Skynyrd and sub-par crap like Blackfoot and .38 Special. Maybe Jax should do that.

I went on a Punk Rock history tour in London lol

[Adam White]

With another passing of these Southern Rock greats and the resurgence of Country/Southern Rock, it is time for Jax to do a better job of embracing its roots here and honoring these guys.

Growing up in Jax, I got sick to my back teeth having to hear about Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc all the time. I think Jax does more than enough. Time to stop living in the past.

Except the casual fan has no idea they are from Jax or about Jax's role in Southern Rock. Most probably think they are from Alabama. You got to embrace what organically makes you unique as a city. I am sure the folks in Seattle hate talking about Grunge Music and Nirvana but they milk it for all its worth. I don't know if anyone hates Elvis, but I am sure you would have hated Elvis and Sun Records if you grew up in Memphis and had to hear about them too 

We play their music here, talk about them, and whatnot, there's no real commemoration of Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, or Southern Rock in general around town. No statues, preserved homes, permanent exhibits, etc. In contrast, Boston has markers at some significant locations, such as former clubs and Aerosmith's apartment (and Aerosmith is objectively lamer than Skynyrd). Augusta has a statue of James Brown, an arena named after the guy, and exhibits at the local museum. Macon, GA has an Allman Brothers Museum in a house where the band once lived. There's a Ronnie Van Zant memorial park, and I think maybe a marker at the Van Zants' childhood home, but there's little else formal that would tell you that two important bands and a notable rock genre started here. And that goes beyond Southern Rock to other musicians from Jacksonville (ragtime blues guitarist Blind Blake, jazz musician Sam Jones, country performer Tim McGraw, etc.), even the Johnson brothers are criminally under-celebrated in their home town.

To be fair, the Allman Brothers are more of a Macon band than a Jax band. But I am perfectly happy without any more Skynyrd crap around town.

I don't know who the Johnson Brothers are.

James Weldon and Rosamond Johnson, who wrote "Life "Ev'ry Voice and Sing" and a number of Broadway songs in the early 20th century, among many other things.

The Macon museum exists only because people made it happen, not because the Allman Brothers are a Macon band (though Macon was obviously very important in their history). In Jacksonville, there's not even a marker at the houses they lived in here, or Willow Branch Park, where the band formed.

I'd be interested to know what "Skynyrd crap" exists that causes you such vexation; I'm not aware of any besides the park, which is in Clay County.

Exactly Tacachale. Everything you said. I have been to London, New York, Seattle, Detroit, Memphis, NOLA, etc., and all of them celebrate their native music icons. One of the top things that out of towners say about Jax is we have no unique culture...well...that's because we failed to celebrate our unique culture and market it like others have. Hell, Free Bird may be the most celebrated song from that era in the entire South. It really is one of the things that makes Jax different than anywhere else.

How does London celebrate its native music icons (just curious)? Aside from Blue Plaques, I can't think of anything. Blue Plaques are a good idea - even for Lynyrd Skynyrd and sub-par crap like Blackfoot and .38 Special. Maybe Jax should do that.

I went on a Punk Rock history tour in London lol

Well, there you have it!

I remember they did some punk rock stuff and some rock or pop stuff. But the stuff I've seen has usually been UK-related and not London-specific. I do recall a Jack the Ripper walk - they love to celebrate their serial killers, that's for sure!

[Tacachale]

I think plaques would be a good idea. Also getting collections together while people are still alive, as was done by the museum in Bakersfield, California for Bakersfield Sound musicians.

http://www.kernpioneer.org/bakersfield-sound

[Adam White]

I think plaques would be a good idea. Also getting collections together while people are still alive, as was done by the museum in Bakersfield, California for Bakersfield Sound musicians.

http://www.kernpioneer.org/bakersfield-sound

That's a good idea. Makes sense to preserve it.

[FlaBoy]

I think plaques would be a good idea. Also getting collections together while people are still alive, as was done by the museum in Bakersfield, California for Bakersfield Sound musicians.

http://www.kernpioneer.org/bakersfield-sound

Right now would be a fantastic time with a lot of the recent losses to begin to pull together a lot of artifacts honoring these guys. I am telling you, especially with the new "country rock" sound which is an ode to Southern Rock in so many ways since these guys constantly bring up Skynyrd, and a lot of these guys like Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Florida-Georgia Line, Cole Swindell, etc, are all from Florida and South Georgia. You could have a pretty awesome opening here.

[Adam White]

I think plaques would be a good idea. Also getting collections together while people are still alive, as was done by the museum in Bakersfield, California for Bakersfield Sound musicians.

http://www.kernpioneer.org/bakersfield-sound

Right now would be a fantastic time with a lot of the recent losses to begin to pull together a lot of artifacts honoring these guys. I am telling you, especially with the new "country rock" sound which is an ode to Southern Rock in so many ways since these guys constantly bring up Skynyrd, and a lot of these guys like Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Florida-Georgia Line, Cole Swindell, etc, are all from Florida and South Georgia. You could have a pretty awesome opening here.

But Jax is so much more than just Southern Rock and I'd be sad to see everything else overlooked in favor of that stuff.

(I'm not disagreeing with you, even though it might seem like I am).

[Tacachale]

I think plaques would be a good idea. Also getting collections together while people are still alive, as was done by the museum in Bakersfield, California for Bakersfield Sound musicians.

http://www.kernpioneer.org/bakersfield-sound

Right now would be a fantastic time with a lot of the recent losses to begin to pull together a lot of artifacts honoring these guys. I am telling you, especially with the new "country rock" sound which is an ode to Southern Rock in so many ways since these guys constantly bring up Skynyrd, and a lot of these guys like Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Florida-Georgia Line, Cole Swindell, etc, are all from Florida and South Georgia. You could have a pretty awesome opening here.

But Jax is so much more than just Southern Rock and I'd be sad to see everything else overlooked in favor of that stuff.

(I'm not disagreeing with you, even though it might seem like I am).

I don't see that as much of an issue. Everything else is mostly overlooked now, even without there being anything to commemorate Southern rock. However, I think everyone would probably get behind recognizing all musicians who came from Jax better than we do now.

[FlaBoy]

I think plaques would be a good idea. Also getting collections together while people are still alive, as was done by the museum in Bakersfield, California for Bakersfield Sound musicians.

http://www.kernpioneer.org/bakersfield-sound

Right now would be a fantastic time with a lot of the recent losses to begin to pull together a lot of artifacts honoring these guys. I am telling you, especially with the new "country rock" sound which is an ode to Southern Rock in so many ways since these guys constantly bring up Skynyrd, and a lot of these guys like Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Florida-Georgia Line, Cole Swindell, etc, are all from Florida and South Georgia. You could have a pretty awesome opening here.

But Jax is so much more than just Southern Rock and I'd be sad to see everything else overlooked in favor of that stuff.

(I'm not disagreeing with you, even though it might seem like I am).

I don't see that as much of an issue. Everything else is mostly overlooked now, even without there being anything to commemorate Southern rock. However, I think everyone would probably get behind recognizing all musicians who came from Jax better than we do now.

100% agree.