Jerry Moran Might Be Exiting the City Core

[fsquid]

"beacon of hope", I'll give him two points for that one.

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

one-post wonder, and that one post is a heartwarming tribute to Jerry Moran.  i find that highly suspicious.

[Adam W]

Smacks of sock puppetry.

[ben says]

one-post wonder, and that one post is a heartwarming tribute to Jerry Moran.  i find that highly suspicious.

Not only suspicious, but hilarious.....

La Cena is not only one of Jacksonville's best restaurants, but also a beacon of hope for entrepreneurs considering opening up shop in the UC.

"Beacon of hope" language....gotta love it!!!

Another fact that may have escaped you is that throughout the decade Jerry has operated his restaurant on Laura Street, he has simultaneously contributed his time, energy and expertise to the City of Jacksonville, serving in such roles as:

•   Chairman of the Sheriff's Advisory Council
•   Member, Hemming Park Ad Hoc Committee
•   Member, Pioneers for JAX

Yeah, because he's done SUCH great work for the Hemming Park Ad Hoc Committee!!!

•   An indigent youth who ran into the kitchen of Jerry's Southside restaurant one evening seeking shelter from gang violence and spent the next eight years working his way up from dishwasher to pantry cook to dining room server;

8 years to work up from a dishwasher to a server? Suspicious at best...

•   A Vietnam Veteran suffering from PTSD who spent two years working at La Cena as a dishwasher before retiring on permanent disability.

So now we're throwing him props for being an equal-opportunity employer?? How humane!

Most notably, when his valued colleague of 27 years, Vicki Torres, was diagnosed with breast cancer, Jerry spared no expense in maintaining her health insurance coverage. He also provided her with much-needed support and encouragement throughout her therapy and recovery.

Ok, here we go..let's give Jerry a pat on the back for KEEPING someone's health insurance during a time of need...instead of the alternative: canceling it. Seems like we're working with a humanist!!

Jerry endorses local government

Red flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, this is really a man you wish to mock and malign?

Absolutely!

I suggest that instead of smugly preaching, proselytizing and prognosticating from the sacred pulpits of your keyboard, you try facing some of the very angry, disturbed and dangerous people who wander in and around La Cena. How long do you think your self-righteous altruism would prevail before you realized that the big stick in that poor, unfortunate man’s hand was aimed directly at your head, and he was not in the mood for tea and sympathy?

Maybe it’s time that you put down the stones you cast so freely, come out of your pretty little stained glass houses, and try walking a mile in Jerry Moran’s shoes…or better yet, try working for one 18-hour day in those shoes…deep in the heart of Jacksonville's beloved, albeit underserved, Urban Core.

Too f'ing funny.

P.S.  Since joining the MetroJacksonville Forum, I have read most all of Jerry's posts, though it appears he stopped writing in late 2010.  I find them to be  brilliant, to the point, and often wryly humorous.

Brilliant?

“A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets tough.” Ronald Reagan

Oh god....the requisite Reagan quote....

[ben says]

Lemme guess...ssky will never post on MetroJax again. And, if he does, it's on this thread and this thread only....

[ssky]

one-post wonder, and that one post is a heartwarming tribute to Jerry Moran.  i find that highly suspicious.

I am curious: As I have just become a member, would I not automatically be a "one-post wonder" by virtue of the fact that...to restate the obvious...it's my first post? Is that what is really suspicious? Or is it the fact that I didn't join the lynch mob when I joined the discussion? Please enlighten me.

[Adam W]

one-post wonder, and that one post is a heartwarming tribute to Jerry Moran.  i find that highly suspicious.

I am curious: As I have just become a member, would I not automatically be a "one-post wonder" by virtue of the fact that...to restate the obvious...it's my first post? Is that what is really suspicious? Or is it the fact that I didn't join the lynch mob when I joined the discussion? Please enlighten me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

[ssky]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

one-post wonder, and that one post is a heartwarming tribute to Jerry Moran.  i find that highly suspicious.

I am curious: As I have just become a member, would I not automatically be a "one-post wonder" by virtue of the fact that...to restate the obvious...it's my first post? Is that what is really suspicious? Or is it the fact that I didn't join the lynch mob when I joined the discussion? Please enlighten me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

especially the second point--it was a couple weeks before people realized i'm not just a troll account.  i expect a few aren't sure.  the main thing that makes me suspicious is how effusive and detailed that was--highly unusual for a first post.

[ssky]

I apologize for my possible oversight, but precisely where did Jerry Moran talk about leaving downtown at all? This post was begun by Ron "Yoda" Chamblain and since then, though I have seen comments from the predictable crew, I have seen nary a word from Jerry. Btw, just because I have never posted before does not mean I don't follow the conversation. 

well big guy, you are welcome to stick with whatever nonsensical theory that you would like to have.

More power to you in fact.

However in reality land, the only person who has talked about leaving downtown is Jerry Moran.  Since he can't get his specific narrow way.

[ssky]

Oh, for Heaven's sake, Stephen! Please just read what I wrote and stop trying to infer things that are not there.  I merely stated that in all of the posts on this rather long and winding thread, Jerry has not weighed in.  I know Ron personally and I think he is wonderful. I truly do think he is a Yoda for many downtown. And, I have no doubt that Marlene told him what he then posted. I am just saying that Jerry, as far as I have read, has never weighed in. So, stay on point and please stop trying to incite a riot.

[ssky]

Btw, what happened to Big Guy's post? I was trying to finish reading it when it suddenly disappeared. Is that also part of the moderation policy? As a "newbie" I really need some guidelines.
And, just as a matter of curiosity, if calling Jerry a misanthropic, inhumane jerk and a terrible human being is not a personal attack upon his character, then what is?  Thank you again for any and all insight as I navigate through the murky waters of my First Amendment rights on this forum.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Other posts were more egregious and attacked the integrity of posters directly which is not allowed.

When debating, always leave your opponent the benefit of the doubt.  Let them be mistaken or decieved, but do not call them liars.

Describe their ideas as lunacy, but do not call them a lunatic.

Denounce their opinions as stupid or halfbaked, but do not call a person stupid directly.

The drivel that comes from Stephen's keyboard is not only somewhat a poor attempt at a long ago eloquent style of writing typically both a pain in the ass and a refreshing breath to read but it's also keenly biased and typically assholish is nature.  Though, Stephen, is a generally pleasant guy.   

It's all about subject / verb usage, Sky.

My last statement was not even close to a personal attack of Stephen, just his words.  Which you may or may not agree with.  (2+ years and I think I'm starting to get the hang of it.  Watch out world!  On to debating pay-per-fire and 'sticking' friends)

[ssky]

one-post wonder, and that one post is a heartwarming tribute to Jerry Moran.  i find that highly suspicious.

Not only suspicious, but hilarious.....

To each his own.

La Cena is not only one of Jacksonville's best restaurants, but also a beacon of hope for entrepreneurs considering opening up shop in the UC.

"Beacon of hope" language....gotta love it!!!

You should, 'tis true.

Another fact that may have escaped you is that throughout the decade Jerry has operated his restaurant on Laura Street, he has simultaneously contributed his time, energy and expertise to the City of Jacksonville, serving in such roles as:

•   Chairman of the Sheriff's Advisory Council
•   Member, Hemming Park Ad Hoc Committee
•   Member, Pioneers for JAX

Yeah, because he's done SUCH great work for the Hemming Park Ad Hoc Committee!!!

He did! What have you done?

•   An indigent youth who ran into the kitchen of Jerry's Southside restaurant one evening seeking shelter from gang violence and spent the next eight years working his way up from dishwasher to pantry cook to dining room server;

8 years to work up from a dishwasher to a server? Suspicious at best...

Once again, you miss the point. The misanthropic, inhumane man you describe would never have hired that guy to begin with.

•   A Vietnam Veteran suffering from PTSD who spent two years working at La Cena as a dishwasher before retiring on permanent disability.

So now we're throwing him props for being an equal-opportunity employer?? How humane!

Yes, he is. Quite a bit different that the way you describe him.

Most notably, when his valued colleague of 27 years, Vicki Torres, was diagnosed with breast cancer, Jerry spared no expense in maintaining her health insurance coverage. He also provided her with much-needed support and encouragement throughout her therapy and recovery.

Ok, here we go..let's give Jerry a pat on the back for KEEPING someone's health insurance during a time of need...instead of the alternative: canceling it. Seems like we're working with a humanist!!

Oh, Ben. This is so sad. You really don't know of what you speak, do you?

Jerry endorses local government

Red flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed?

So, this is really a man you wish to mock and malign?

Absolutely!

Because? Really. I am very curious. As far as I am aware, you don't know the man at all. So, how have you chosen to unload all of your pent-up hostility on him?

I suggest that instead of smugly preaching, proselytizing and prognosticating from the sacred pulpits of your keyboard, you try facing some of the very angry, disturbed and dangerous people who wander in and around La Cena. How long do you think your self-righteous altruism would prevail before you realized that the big stick in that poor, unfortunate man’s hand was aimed directly at your head, and he was not in the mood for tea and sympathy?

Maybe it’s time that you put down the stones you cast so freely, come out of your pretty little stained glass houses, and try walking a mile in Jerry Moran’s shoes better yet, try working for one 18-hour day in those shoes…deep in the heart of Jacksonville's beloved, albeit underserved, Urban Core.

Too f'ing funny.

Sadly, I am not surprised you find it amusing.

P.S.  Since joining the MetroJacksonville Forum, I have read most all of Jerry's posts, though it appears he stopped writing in late 2010.  I find them to be  brilliant, to the point, and often wryly humorous.

Brilliant?

Yes, brilliant and prophetic.

“A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets tough.” Ronald Reagan

Oh god....the requisite Reagan quote....

Yes, that was really more of a tribute to: If_I_Loved You, who should begin practicing more of what he preaches...or, in his case, quotes.

[Adam W]

ssky -

Your First Amendment rights don't extend to this forum.

And I don't think you understand what a red herring is.

You may not be Jerry Moran. But you can't blame people for thinking you *might* be. No one faults you for taking issue with some of the things that were posted on this forum. But it's the obsequious manner you went about making the case for Jerry Moran that raised a lot of suspicions.

I don't care one way or another about Jerry Moran or La Cena. I've heard good things about the food. But I decided years ago never to ever eat there when I read stuff he posted about homeless people (and saw videos he posted as well).

I don't know the guy and accept that he may very well be a perfectly nice human being in every other way - I can only judge him on his actions. He has permanently lost my business for acting in a way that I can only describe as hateful towards an entire class of people.