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Paul Ryan "OMG"

Started by avonjax, August 12, 2012, 09:40:24 AM

buckethead

Quote from: avonjax on August 30, 2012, 09:43:02 AM
1)If you noticed I posted about Ryan while he was on. I was just giving my commentary of his smugness.
2)Buckethead you are wrong about the cuts. Period!
3)And accusing people of knowing what they are talking about is the usual accusation of the other side.
4)By the way I know both parties sling their share of crap.
5)I just agree with the progressive side way more.

1) Obviously
2) Please point out any factual errors in my post. Comma,
3) I'm not sure what this means
4) Agreed, which is the main point I made.
5) On what?

Dog Walker

All of the media are commenting on how Ryan repeated the lies and distortions that he has been called out on before.

"Obama caused GM plant closing in Wisconsin!"  No, George Bush was President when it happened.
When all else fails hug the dog.

fsquid

you gotta lie to win the throne.

Gators312

Quote from: fsquid on August 30, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
you gotta lie to win the throne.

So true.  It's humorous to think that just one side lies and twists the truth.

fsquid

Quote from: stephendare on August 30, 2012, 11:12:48 AM
Quote from: fsquid on August 30, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
you gotta lie to win the throne.

Im sorry that you think that way.

The rest of us deserve better.

You do, I'm just living in reality.

fsquid

Quote from: stephendare on August 30, 2012, 11:17:56 AM
Quote from: fsquid on August 30, 2012, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: stephendare on August 30, 2012, 11:12:48 AM
Quote from: fsquid on August 30, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
you gotta lie to win the throne.

Im sorry that you think that way.

The rest of us deserve better.

You do, I'm just living in reality.

you mean the one that everyone is lying to you about? ;)

basically

Lunican


finehoe

How The Media Soft-Plays Paul Ryan’s Lies: ‘Factual Shortcuts,’ ‘Perceived Inaccuracies,’ ‘Questionable Claims’

Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) speech to the Republican National Convention last night was chock-full of bald-faced lies. For example, Ryan blamed the Obama for S&P’s downgrade of our credit rating (despite the fact that S&P blamed GOP policies) and blasted Obama for failing to heed the Bowles-Simpson debt commission (which Ryan torpedoed). Yet political reporters covering the speech have, in many cases, been curiously reticent to call Ryan’s lies what they are. Here’s a list, in no particular order, of the euphemisms used in place of “lie” to describe Ryan’s falsehoods:

1. “Factual shortcuts.” â€" Jack Gillum and Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Associated Press. Even in some pieces ostensibly devoted to fact-checking Ryan’s speech, like this Associated Press item, reporters shy away from the term “lie.”

2. “Factually challenged” â€" John Berman, CNN. The word lie was later used on air to describe Ryan’s speech, but by The Daily Caller’s Will Cain, who was defending Ryan against the charge.

3. “Inaccuracies” â€" Donovan Slack, Politico. In what’s essentially a he-said-she-said post about the Obama campaign’s reactions to Ryan’s lies, Slack refers to the speech as “otherwise well-reviewed” despite the avalanche of criticism Ryan received for the speech’s tenuous relationship with the truth.

4. “Mr. Ryan ran headlong into the fire” â€" Jim Rutenberg, The New York Times. The Times’ write-up of the speech fails to call out any of the lies in Ryan’s speech, focusing instead on how the speech would play politically â€" an issue which is in part determined by how the press chooses to cover the speech.

5. “He is viewed as a truth teller.” â€" Howard Kurtz, Newsweek/The Daily Beast. Kurtz chooses to repeat this supposed perception of Ryan without addressing the question of whether the content of the speech is, in fact, truthful.

6. ” Paul Ryan stretched some truths Wednesday night…according to the fact checkers” â€" Mark Memmott NPR. In an otherwise admirable piece critiquing Ryan’s speech, Memmott uses both a the “stretched the truth” euphemism and frames the issue as a debate between fact-checkers and Ryan. The Romney campaign dismisses factcheckers, having said “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.”

7. “Questionable claims.” â€" Carol Costello, CNN. Costello goes on to say that Ryan’s claims about a GM plant in his hometown were rated by CNN factcheckers as “true but incomplete.”

8. “It’s keeping fact-checkers busy…[the Obama campaign] is trying to call attention to perceived inaccuracies in Ryan’s speech” â€" Chuck Todd, MSNBC. Indeed.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/30/774211/how-the-media-soft-plays-paul-ryans-lies-factual-shortcuts-perceived-inaccuracies-questionable-claims/

Midway ®

Quote from: Lunican on August 30, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
Paul Ryan's speech in three words: Dazzling, Deceiving, Distracting.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/

What is the world coming to when a fox news article calls Ryan's speech deceptive and distracting?

Better make a copy before they scrub that article, once Roger realizes its there.

Lunican

I thought this was an interesting quote:

QuoteOn the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words


buckethead

OH SNIZZZZAPP!

Hell NO!

Fox News did not just betray the Red team! :o

Lunican

It's crazy that Ryan blamed Obama for the downgrade of the U.S. credit rating since S&P literally wrote that they are downgrading as a result of the Republicans inability to raise revenues or the debt ceiling.


QuoteCompared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act. Key macroeconomic assumptions in the base case scenario include trend real GDP growth of 3% and consumer price inflation near 2% annually over the decade.

avonjax

Here I go again...
Marco  seem to be giving a similar speech to the one given by Ryan last night.
These new young tea party guys need to have a few drinks and lighten up.

avonjax

I'm enjoying Romney blaming Obama for the high price of everything. What a joke. And again that stupid lie about raiding Medicare of over 700 billion dollars.
And to put a cherry on top he promised to create 12 million new jobs and promised every American he would give them a job.
That's gonna happen.
I have to tell everyone that Romney is sickening.
He does nothing but pander to the party.
He is telling everyone what they want to hear.
His speech is disgusting.

Timkin

Quote from: avonjax on August 30, 2012, 11:11:20 PM
I'm enjoying Romney blaming Obama for the high price of everything. What a joke. And again that stupid lie about raiding Medicare of over 700 billion dollars.
And to put a cherry on top he promised to create 12 million new jobs and promised every American he would give them a job.
That's gonna happen.
I have to tell everyone that Romney is sickening.
He does nothing but pander to the party.
He is telling everyone what they want to hear.
His speech is disgusting.


12 Million jobs are coming from..........??