Insane Clown Posse on Jax Native Fred Durst

[Metro Jacksonville]

Insane Clown Posse on Jax Native Fred Durst



Its been a busy year for Fred Durst.  He is currently working on his third film, "Pawnshop Chronicles" and in February he announced after reuniting Limp Bizkit in 2009 that the band would be signing onto the Cash Money label.  One of his side projects was to make a cameo appearance with Insane Clown Posse.  ICP recently confirmed what many have been saying about the man once widely considered one of the biggest asses in show business.  Fred has turned out to be a decent man and an nice guy:  Join us below the fold for Insane Clown Posse on our boy Fred and the new project.

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[Spence]

more on this please.

[Adam W]

Unless I'm mistaken (and I cannot believe I actually know this), Fred Durst is not really a Jacksonville native (depending on how you define the term, I guess). He moved here in his teenage years. He's originally from North Carolina.

[I-10east]

He might not truly be a Jax 'native' but if he says he's from here, then he's from here. It's no different than Eminem, Ludacris, and Kanye West repping Detroit, ATL, and Chi Town respectively.

[Adam W]

He might not truly be a Jax 'native' but if he says he's from here, then he's from here. It's no different than Eminem, Ludacris, and Kanye West repping Detroit, ATL, and Chi Town respectively.

I don't doubt that he's "from" here. He's "from" Jacksonville as much as I am. I was just pointing out that he's not really a native, per se. But then again, it might be down to how you define the word native.

And my quibbling with the use of the word 'native' is more a function of me being a pedantic prick than it is of me hating on Jacksonville, so save your breath 

[Adam W]

He might not truly be a Jax 'native' but if he says he's from here, then he's from here. It's no different than Eminem, Ludacris, and Kanye West repping Detroit, ATL, and Chi Town respectively.

I don't doubt that he's "from" here. He's "from" Jacksonville as much as I am. I was just pointing out that he's not really a native, per se. But then again, it might be down to how you define the word native.

And my quibbling with the use of the word 'native' is more a function of me being a pedantic prick than it is of me hating on Jacksonville, so save your breath 

since pedantry and semanticism seem to be the order of the day, I havent actually read any rule that requires that someone's birthplace is where they are 'from'.  In fact, I have often heard people describe the matter thusly:  I am from (place a) although I was born in (place b).

You need to work on your reading comprehension, my friend 

[Adam W]

He might not truly be a Jax 'native' but if he says he's from here, then he's from here. It's no different than Eminem, Ludacris, and Kanye West repping Detroit, ATL, and Chi Town respectively.

I don't doubt that he's "from" here. He's "from" Jacksonville as much as I am. I was just pointing out that he's not really a native, per se. But then again, it might be down to how you define the word native.

And my quibbling with the use of the word 'native' is more a function of me being a pedantic prick than it is of me hating on Jacksonville, so save your breath 

since pedantry and semanticism seem to be the order of the day, I havent actually read any rule that requires that someone's birthplace is where they are 'from'.  In fact, I have often heard people describe the matter thusly:  I am from (place a) although I was born in (place b).

You need to work on your reading comprehension, my friend 

hmm.  This will mark the second time in almost fifty years that someone has suggested it, of course the other guy was a pedantic prick but im sure that it an unrelated fact.

Perhaps you could help me understand by explaining your suggestion.

Stephen, I agreed that Fred Durst is from Jacksonville. I stated that in my earlier post.

[Adam W]

Stephen, Fred Durst is not a lifelong resident of Jacksonville.

[Adam W]

I agree that you agreed to that.

What we seem to differ on is whether or not the definition of 'native' applies to Durst, and since the dictionary agrees that it does, I would assume that the matter is settled.

The dictionary doesn't agree at all, but you never admit you are wrong. So I guess the matter is settled, in some ways 

[Adam W]

Lifelong would mean for one's entire life. We already know Durst lived in Gastonia, NC until his teen years. He moved to Jax and then left for the Navy for a few years. He came back and formed Limp Bizkit.

Once the band got big, he let again and was gone for a number of years. He may very well live in Jax again. But by any measure, he hasn't lived in Jax for his entire life.

Maybe if he is living in Jax now and lives in Jax for the rest of his life he will indeed fit your very broad definition of a "native."

I suppose you have access to those tax returns, though.

[Adam W]

http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/house-in-los-angeles-bel-air-area-that-rocker-fred-durst-once-owned-comes-back-on-the-market-for-6-45-million/

you are free to argue with the definition if you like, adam.

Thanks for confirming that Fred Durst at least didn't live in Jax for a chunk of the 2000s. Odd for a "lifelong resident."

[Adam W]

Lifelong would mean for one's entire life. We already know Durst lived in Gastonia, NC until his teen years. He moved to Jax and then left for the Navy for a few years. He came back and formed Limp Bizkit.

Once the band got big, he let again and was gone for a number of years. He may very well live in Jax again. But by any measure, he hasn't lived in Jax for his entire life.

Maybe if he is living in Jax now and lives in Jax for the rest of his life he will indeed fit your very broad definition of a "native."

I suppose you have access to those tax returns, though.

Hmm, Adam.  In order for your argument to have weight, I suppose that we have to take a few things on faith.

1.  That Fred never lived, stepped foot in, or otherwise had any roots in Jacksonville until after the day he turned at least 13.

2.  That joining the navy required him to leave Jacksonville, because, you know......how could he be in the Navy and still live in Jax, right?

3. That he owns no property here in Jacksonville and divested himself of any address or property after he made it 'big' and decided to go pay state income taxes in Cali, and then wrongfully claim that he was 'from' jacksonville for the rest of his career.

I believe that Occam's razor applies here, but do lets hear your evidence on the three points which must be demonstrated to support your argument.

Stephen, Fred Durst grew up in Gastonia, NC. He may have visited Jax as a child or even had roots here. That doesn't make him a native of Jacksonville, anymore than me having a grandmother in Buffalo, NY makes me a native of Buffalo (even though I visited there a lot as a child and even stayed there one summer in junior high).

As far as the Navy goes, he had to at least go away for basic training.

We could go back and forth about this all day.

[Adam W]

of course, I think its also fair to admit that I think there is lattitude in the word usage, and there does not really exist a strict definition that could really apply.

But maybe my reading comprehension is the culprit.

I think we could both agree that Fred Durst is one of Jax's biggest recent exports.

[Adam W]

William Frederick Durst (born August 20, 1970 in Jacksonville, Florida) is the lead singer of Limp Bizkit.

Fred Durst was born in Jacksonville, Florida. His biological father left when he was several weeks old, and he was raised solely by his mother, Anita Durst, during his infancy. The two were very poor, his mother having no house, job, or money. They lived in the top of a church, and people brought him baby food, which they both lived on. Anita eventually met Bill, a policeman, who she married when Durst was 2. He was Durst's father figure.

I'm absolutely incorrect if that's the case.

[I-10east]

Okay, I take your word for it Stephen. I just updated wiki saying that Durst was born in Jax.