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Disney to use JaxPort

Started by tg, June 19, 2012, 09:55:21 AM

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: MusicMan on June 19, 2012, 01:34:17 PM
What a perfect press conference: Gov. Scott, Mayor Brown, and Mickey Mouse.
Which one was Mickey Mouse?  ;D

BridgeTroll

Quote from: Timkin on June 19, 2012, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 19, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
QuoteI'm actually surprised they weren't using Port Canaveral....

No rail out of Port Canaveral and the 528 is a toll road, two strikes.

Lucky us! . I am happy to learn this .   This means income for Jacksonville.  Win Win.


But... I thought toll roads were a good thing.  Maybe not?  What?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

finehoe

Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 19, 2012, 03:05:03 PM
But... I thought toll roads were a good thing.  Maybe not?  What?

Obviously it would be socialism if everyone paid for a road that only some use.  ::)

Quote from: mtraininjax on June 19, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
No rail out of Port Canaveral and the 528 is a toll road, two strikes.

The rail I get, but is avoiding the toll really worth transporting the goods an extra 100 or 200 miles?

mtraininjax

Port Canaveral is a cruise terminal, their container traffic is very small compared to Jax. Tampa would have been the other best option, my thinking, but there has to be some connection to Jax/Savannah that we are not aware of here, otherwise, Tampa would have been just down the street from Disney. Why not there?
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Jason

^ That was my next thought after Port Canaveral.  Just didn't want to give anyone any ideas  :)


tufsu1

Port Canaveral currently has no container berths at their port

Tacachale

Yeah, I was wondering why not Tampa. Perhaps Port of Jacksonville just offers something else that compensates for the extra 70 or so miles.
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finehoe

As a deep water cargo port, it has a high volume of traffic. Over 3,000,000 short tons (2,700,000 t) of bulk cargo moves through each year. Common cargo includes cement, petroleum and aggregate. The port has conveyors and hoppers for loading products directly into trucks, and facilities for bulk cargo containers. The channel is about 44 feet (13 m) deep.[1]

There is 750,000 square feet (70,000 m2) of covered freight storage capacity. It handled 4,000,000 short tons (3,600,000 t) of cargo in 2004. The port exports fresh citrus; bulk frozen citrus juice stored in one of the largest freezer warehouses in the state; cement and building materials. The port receives lumber, salt for water softening, automobiles, and steel sheet and plate. It transships items for land, sea, air and space. Port Canaveral's Foreign Trade Zone is among the largest general purpose FTZs in the nation - over 5 square miles (13 km2). The port boosts Brevard's economy by 1/2 billion dollars annually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Canaveral

Ocklawaha

Quote from: mtraininjax on June 20, 2012, 06:07:55 AM
Port Canaveral is a cruise terminal, their container traffic is very small compared to Jax. Tampa would have been the other best option, my thinking, but there has to be some connection to Jax/Savannah that we are not aware of here, otherwise, Tampa would have been just down the street from Disney. Why not there?

Port Canaveral is currently without any container facilities, though a container terminal on the north side of the port is in the planning stages. Without rail, the port suffers from connectivity, and even with rail it still has no access to Central Florida without going through Jacksonville first. The port does offer RO-RO and has a handsome collection of dockside warehousing. Watch for the FECI 'All Aboard Florida' link to add that needed connection into the heart of Central Florida that the port currently lacks. This should be a red flag to Jacksonville, however our city does have a statement on it. "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"

Port Tampa, has 2100 feet of container berthing with 3 cranes, though it is expandable to many times that size and there are plans to 'grow it.' Another red flag? Maybe, but Tampa and Port Canaveral, even with the FECI rail link still lacks the diversity of rail that Jacksonville offers. Put another way Tampa boasts 3 container cranes, Jacksonville has 18 with more in the works. Our Tri-Pac Terminal alone offers more cranes and 2400 feet of berth. Tampa is number one in Florida in tonnage only because it is a port for ROCKS, IE: phosphate.

The message is simple, we have them soundly out classed, so we needn't worry over it. Just like when we were the states biggest city, the leading financial center, the 'Queen of the Winter Resorts,' or controlled state politics. "It's a Long Way to Tipperary..."

finehoe

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Quote from: Ocklawaha on June 20, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
Port Canaveral is currently without any container facilities

Their website claims differently:



http://www.portcanaveral.com/cargo/cargophotos.php

Jason

The other thing to consider is that Disney's cargo is only a fraction of the cargo it is paired with on a transport ship.  A handfull of the thousands of containers will not steer a ship to a different port for Disney's sake.  The other 98.5% of the ship's cargo is what sets the port of call.  Disney is likely comitted to a certain Asian transport company to move their goods and that Asian company now likely has the strongest ties to JaxPort.


finehoe

Apparently they handle cargo containers, just smaller ones than is needed for Disney.

Translation:  There is a lot o' plastic junk coming from China to JaxPort.

mtraininjax

QuoteTheir website claims differently:

And every website is 100% complete and factual and no one would ever promote something they did not do, or even lie to the public?????

LOL!
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

finehoe

Quote from: mtraininjax on June 20, 2012, 07:39:11 PM
And every website is 100% complete and factual

That's certainly true of everything I read on the Metro Jacksonville website.  ;D