Judge threatens to block opening of new Duval courthouse Read more at Jackson

Started by coredumped, April 23, 2012, 04:16:39 PM

thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Dapperdan


02roadking

Springfield since 1998

duvaldude08

Atleast the inside looks nice! LOL bout the only positive I can pull from the whole darn project.
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WmNussbaum

Another large public building with floors as slick as ice. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! One of you architect/engineer types please explain to me why highly polished terazzo is the end-all and be-all for flooring in such buildings - other than durability. Surely someone has come up with something better by now. I can hardly wait to negotiate those floors after a rain and sue the pants off of the City when I bust some bone in my ancient body.

coredumped

Wow, not exactly modest....I just wish they'd get in there and start using it so I can forget it's there:)
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aaapolito

Quote from: duvaldude08 on May 24, 2012, 04:09:57 PM
Atleast the inside looks nice! LOL bout the only positive I can pull from the whole darn project.

I have to respectfully disagree.  First, the new courthouse will increase safety for the judges and general public.  In the old courthouse the chain gang used to walk the hallway with the public and judges.  This was unacceptable. 

Secondly, we were one of the last, if not the last county, in the state to construct a new courthouse. The last building was out of date and no longer meet the needs of the public and the legal community. The new building will become a symbol of our city and legal community.

Third, the new building was constructed on several vacant blocks in LaVilla.  The construction has filled in some of the blight in that neighborhood.  Additionally, we all hope that the new courthouse will be a catalyst for new development in LaVilla, and hopfully not to the detriment of Bay Street.

The new courthouse is a positive step forward for Jacksonville, despite the rough road toward completion.  I hope that it will serve the community for decades to come and that the surrounding area, LaVilla and downtown, will benefit from the new building.

Timkin

Quote from: aaapolito on May 24, 2012, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on May 24, 2012, 04:09:57 PM
Atleast the inside looks nice! LOL bout the only positive I can pull from the whole darn project.

I have to respectfully disagree.  First, the new courthouse will increase safety for the judges and general public.  In the old courthouse the chain gang used to walk the hallway with the public and judges.  This was unacceptable. 

Secondly, we were one of the last, if not the last county, in the state to construct a new courthouse. The last building was out of date and no longer meet the needs of the public and the legal community. The new building will become a symbol of our city and legal community.

Third, the new building was constructed on several vacant blocks in LaVilla.  The construction has filled in some of the blight in that neighborhood.  Additionally, we all hope that the new courthouse will be a catalyst for new development in LaVilla, and hopfully not to the detriment of Bay Street.

The new courthouse is a positive step forward for Jacksonville, despite the rough road toward completion.  I hope that it will serve the community for decades to come and that the surrounding area, LaVilla and downtown, will benefit from the new building.


I hope it serves for at least a Century, as we taxpayers will bear the burden of making that building a reality, for at least that long. With that and the continually grossly expensive price tag for the maintenance of that place.

No argument that we probably needed a more modern facility.  That place is overkill X10.  But hey , its there now, with all if its problems that will continue to emerge with time, wait and see.

Its not even open yet and is not deemed safe.  Pretty sad, considering the grossly high cost to put it there.

As to the La Villa neighborhood, simply put, there is no longer a La Villa neighborhood.  We razed the entire area. Not sure why , except to make way for hideous places like that.

Hope you are right about it generating new growth.  What I expect is to see everything historic around it, except possibly the Ritz ( which really is no longer historic)   Razed to make way for more "legal system" stuff.   

Genovar's Hall is literally a stones throw from it.  It doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being saved now.

:)

tufsu1

Quote from: Timkin on May 25, 2012, 03:19:51 AM
No argument that we probably needed a more modern facility.  That place is overkill X10.  But hey , its there now, with all if its problems that will continue to emerge with time, wait and see.

well considering the one we built in the 1950s was undersized and outdated less than 25 years later, its probably ok that they went larger than needed today on the new facility.

mtraininjax

Judge Moran for Mayor!

QuoteMoran said he would not bring the judges back to their old home, an idea that had been bruited about in the past few days.

"There's no way we're going back to that old building," Moran said. "That's not even on the table."

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-05-24/story/duval-courthouse-needs-open-soon-chief-judge-says-new-tests-could-make
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Charles Hunter

Action News reported tonight that in interviews with the Fire Marshal, they do not expect the Court House to pass the next round of tests this weekend.  Not likely to open Monday.  Clerk of Court is canceling jury summons.  Problems may be so bad as to keep CH closed for a month!

Timkin

Quote from: Charles Hunter on May 31, 2012, 10:37:57 PM
Action News reported tonight that in interviews with the Fire Marshal, they do not expect the Court House to pass the next round of tests this weekend.  Not likely to open Monday.  Clerk of Court is canceling jury summons.  Problems may be so bad as to keep CH closed for a month!

Costing taxpayers..........................................................$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$    :o

mtraininjax

QuoteCosting taxpayers..........................................................$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Possible Strike 2 against the mayor. The repercussions are huge for everyone who lives and works in the justice system, the vendors, employees, and obviously the taxpayers. Another month would really hit hard on the mayor.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: Charles Hunter on May 31, 2012, 10:37:57 PM
Action News reported tonight that in interviews with the Fire Marshal, they do not expect the Court House to pass the next round of tests this weekend.  Not likely to open Monday.  Clerk of Court is canceling jury summons.  Problems may be so bad as to keep CH closed for a month!
What I don't understand is why did they move from the old courthouse to this New White Elephant. Before all of these Fire Systems were checked out?

Timkin

Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on June 01, 2012, 12:13:23 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on May 31, 2012, 10:37:57 PM
Action News reported tonight that in interviews with the Fire Marshal, they do not expect the Court House to pass the next round of tests this weekend.  Not likely to open Monday.  Clerk of Court is canceling jury summons.  Problems may be so bad as to keep CH closed for a month!
What I don't understand is why did they move from the old courthouse to this New White Elephant. Before all of these Fire Systems were checked out?

This is indeed the 300+million-dollar question ..