Antarctic Melting Faster, Jacksonville still has no plan

[downtownparks]

The death metal band?

[Ocklawaha]

Igloo Paradise Resort by Metro-Jacksonville and Friends, Inc?

Hey, here's a thought for all of us, the Exxon and non-greasy alike... Why not form a Corporation and lay claim, homestead some of that prime new real estate that will be laid bare by the Ice... Stephendare can open a Seaside Club/Restaurant, I'll get to work on a transit system, JBM can take care of Law Enforcement and damn if we all won't get rich selling Antarctic Beachfront Condo's designed by Lakelander of course...

Retire in Sunny Antarctica.... Envirotopia of the future! *Hey, they've got some damn deep lakes too, bet the fishing will be great.

Ocklawaha

[Driven1]

i love this site...howstuffworks.com...
this one tells us how much the oceans would rise with the melting of the icecaps...

http://science.howstuffworks.com/question473.htm

WOW!  i did not know that 90% of the world's ice was in antarctica!!!!!!!!!

that's a lot of ice, hahahahaha!!!

[riverkeepered]

I just read an interesting article by David Orr, the Paul Sears Distinguished Professor of Environmental Studies and Politics at Oberlin College, about climate change.  Orr distinguishes between optimism and hope - optimism means that the odds are in your favor, while hope is employed when you are fighting against the odds.  In the case of climate change and many of our other environmental challenges, you could easily argue that the odds are against us.  As a result, Orr calls for us to have "authentic hope" in the battle against climate change. "Authentic hope as he describes it "requires us to check our optimism at the door and enter the future without illusions. It requires a level of honesty, selfawareness, and sobriety that is difficult to summon and sustain."

I couldn't agree more. We all (including citizens, elected officials, and policymakers) must at some point begin to face reality and read the writing that is on the wall. In geological years, the Industrial Revolution represents a nearly imperceptible spec on the timeline. Yet, we have managed, in an incredibly short period of time, to cause significant and often devastating damage and harm to the health of this planet.  We are lacking a healthy dose of reality, and we must get honest with ourselves before we can adequately address climate change and the other significant challenges that we are faced with.

Orr continues by challenging the conventional notion of "going green." He points out that consumerism might not bail us out of this mess, even if it is "green": The "Americanway of life" is thought to be sacrosanct. In the face of a global emergency, brought on in no small way by the profligate American way of life, few are willing to say otherwise. So we are told to buy hybrid cars, but are not asked to walk, travel by bikes, or go less often, even at the end of the era of cheap oil. We are asked to buy compact fluorescent light bulbs, but not to turn off our electronic stuff or not buy it in the first place. We are admonished to buy green, but seldom asked to buy less or repair whatwe already have or just make do.We are encouraged to build LEED-rated buildings that are used for maybe 10 hours a day for 5 days a week, but we are not told thatwe cannot build ourway out of the mess we have made or to repair existing buildings. We are not told that the consumerway of life will have to be rethought and redesigned to exist within the limits of natural systems and better fitted to our human limitations."

I would also add that we can't give people the false impression that buying carbon offsets and a new hybrid Tahoe means you are "green" and have done your part, either. Just as we need "authentic hope", we need "authentic green" and it needs to become a way of life. As Thomas L. Friedman said, "green has to become a part of America's DNA." To get to that point, we will have to be honest and see ourselves and our impacts without illusions. However, this will be a difficult task in state that has been built upon illusions, selling its own fantasy version of the American dream for a long time.

Here is the link if you want to read the entire Orr article: http://www.davidworr.com/more.php?articleid=23

[gatorback]

Stephen is correct:  Who cares who is to blame, what are we doing about it???

[gatorback]

I'm sure yall have seen this graph.  Not from the wiki.  It compares storm strength to ocean suface temp.


7. Temporal development of a power dissipation index for tropical cyclones compared to the sea surface temperature of the oceans. According to K. Emanuel (Nature, 2005).

[MusicMan]

Stephen,

I re-read the quote you posted from Charleston native and it's utterly sad.

"You're failing to see the overall big picture... we can only control what we do with the land and the weather that is given to us: we cannot control the weather."


So ignorant of the fundamental impact 7 billion people are having on planet Earth......................

[simms3]

So your whole point was to pick some random guy's quote from 2008, make him/her look bad, and prop yourself up in the meantime?

Why do you constantly do this?  Geez you're a piece of work.

[MusicMan]

The fellows quote made him look bad, not Stephen. I think the point is that nothing has been done here or anywhere else in the past several years. We are the Sunshine State with no solar program in place at all and we will be the first to go underwater. I think that was the point.

[bill]

Stephen,

I re-read the quote you posted from Charleston native and it's utterly sad.

"You're failing to see the overall big picture... we can only control what we do with the land and the weather that is given to us: we cannot control the weather."


So ignorant of the fundamental impact 7 billion people are having on planet Earth......................

yes completely ignorant.  And if you look at the date, you can see that 7 years ago, many people were denying that there were any changes whatsoever in the climate.  Liberal Moonbats is what he and Riverside Gator were calling anyone who discussed climate change.

It was terrible.  They kept quoting studies from 'teams of scientists' who disagreed, but when you researched the teams of scientists, you would find out that the science they studied was actually (and I'm not making this up) economics.

So where is your science? Totally sad. and I am not making this up.