Lessons Learned from Trayvon Martin

[wsansewjs]

If heaven forbid, you are ever murdered for being gay, I hope that people won't think protests over it are 'obnoxious'.

Its a pity that these obnoxious people didnt check with someone first about how best to protest the murder of a 17 year old.

Perhaps you could write them a pithy little note.

Stephen,

I understand where you are coming from. I also comprehends that you are trying to raise a point of a different topic but share the same relationship with this Treyvon incident. The word "obnoxious(ly)" I used is only USED in context to THAT previous post I said. Nothing else. Please don't blow it out of the portion.

And please don't rub it in my nose about gay-related topics, my own mother and sister are lesbians, and I love them so much. I have been a supporter for LGBT for long time. I even helped few of my friends to come out of the closet so they don't have to suffer mentally when they asked for my help.

I am going to sit back and let other posts on this thread. I think it is time to put this little heat between us down, in my opinion. For the record, I admire and adore your spirit and intelligence in debating, and I know that I will lose when I debate with you.

Your friend,
Josh

[JeffreyS]

I think everyone has jumped to conclusions.  Media, social media, the black community, the defenders of zimmerman.  99% of these people do not really know the facts.  We know bits and pieces... and believe certain bits and discount various pieces.

I think we can just listen to what Zimmerman said on his 911 call to know he would not leave the kid alone until he created a situation to shoot Treyvon.

Thank you for making my point...

Just taking Zimmerman at his word. He said on the call Treyvon was running from him and then he would let him be.

[mtraininjax]

Yes, this is a mess, I hope justice comes out from Corey's investigation and THAT is the justice for this case. I just hope that people do not seek their own justice in the street against their fellow man for the color of their skin. Martin did not deserve to die, either accidentally or intentionally, so I hope that justice will be found in this case, through the means of our courts.

[JeffreyS]

Yes, this is a mess, I hope justice comes out from Corey's investigation and THAT is the justice for this case. I just hope that people do not seek their own justice in the street against their fellow man for the color of their skin. Martin did not deserve to die, either accidentally or intentionally, so I hope that justice will be found in this case, through the means of our courts.

+1

[civil42806]

Rule #1 if your neighborhood watch do not follow someone, just call it in and let the system take care of it.  Nothing good is going to come of pursuing someone like this, if thats what happened.  But just ran across this on the washington post if its true NBC has some explaining to do.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6

[duvaldude08]

I just experience something similar an hour ago. Ive stayed in my subdivision for about a month now. I'm trying to shed some pounds so I went a thirty minute walk. I was passing this one white guy going to his car and he said " Hey whassup man? Do you stay here?" I thought he was asking If I stayed in the house that were standing near. Which I thought "why would he ask me that?" and I replied " Yea I stay around the corner". When I thought about it, he was asking me If I stayed in the neighborhood, as If I should not have been there. I felt a certain kinda of way afterwards. Like "Wow so a big black guy can walk around his own subdivision without being "suspicious.?" I understand that has been a rash of crimes out here,  but c'mon man. That's why I feel so passionate about this case. Profiling DOES happen and happens on a regular basis.

[bill]

Rule #1 if your neighborhood watch do not follow someone, just call it in and let the system take care of it.  Nothing good is going to come of pursuing someone like this, if thats what happened.  But just ran across this on the washington post if its true NBC has some explaining to do.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6

It is true and amazing what the press will do to make something about race

[bill]

Rule #1 if your neighborhood watch do not follow someone, just call it in and let the system take care of it.  Nothing good is going to come of pursuing someone like this, if thats what happened.  But just ran across this on the washington post if its true NBC has some explaining to do.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6

It is true and amazing what the press will do to make something about race

How was the klavern meeting bill?

As usual, when the facts do not fit into your simple narrative you resort to name calling. In the real world this would get your ass kicked. In your little dork world where you hide behind the computer it demonstrates to everyone what a complete low life turd you are.

[bill]

Rule #1 if your neighborhood watch do not follow someone, just call it in and let the system take care of it.  Nothing good is going to come of pursuing someone like this, if thats what happened.  But just ran across this on the washington post if its true NBC has some explaining to do.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6

It is true and amazing what the press will do to make something about race

How was the klavern meeting bill?

As usual, when the facts do not fit into your simple narrative you resort to name calling. In the real world this would get your ass kicked. In your little dork world where you hide behind the computer it demonstrates to everyone what a complete low life turd you are.

I'm sure you have it dead right, bill. There's a national media conspiracy to twist even minor incidents into stories that coddle the blacks, and I'm the type of person who hides behind my secret little Internet identity in my moms basement.

Both of your revelations seem equally valid.

As usual you add in your own diatribe.

They altered the tapes and I can assure you that you would not say that to my face. both facts

[Tacachale]

Looks like Corey's going after Zimmerman for second degree murder, and he's been taken into custody.

http://m.jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/adam-kealoha-causey/2012-04-11/live-coverage-george-zimmerman-charged-second

[stephenc]

The new medical reports on the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case tell us a lot. And it is not just for what they find, but also what they don’t find.
First, the reports provide striking evidence that Zimmerman did not start the fight with Martin, and that Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense. Martin’s injuries were two-fold: broken skin on his knuckles and the fatal gunshot wound.
Zimmerman’s injuries involved: a fractured nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury.
It takes considerable force to break the skin on multiple knuckles. The large range of injuries on Zimmerman indicates that the Martin’s attack was prolonged. But here is what is missing: where are the injuries to Zimmerman’s hands? Where are the bruises on Martin’s face or other parts of his body? The evidence paints a picture where Martin was the only person landing blows.
The broken skin on Martin’s knuckles and Zimmerman’s wounds obviously provide some justification for self-defense. But if Zimmerman is to have justifiably used self-defense, he can’t have provoked Martin’s attack.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/16/what-zimmerman-martin-medical-reports-tell-us-and-media-didnt/

[bill]

Crickets

[Bridges]

Man with gun has no need to use fists, news at 11.
Unarmed kid has to use hands to defend himself, news at 11. 

I still don't understand the issue here.  Didn't Zimmerman follow Martin?...against a professionals orders?  (Despite the "Daily Callers" incredible story)

That article is filled with some of the most outlandish leaps I have ever read.  I do love this though:

It takes considerable force to break the skin on multiple knuckles. The large range of injuries on Zimmerman indicates that the Martin’s attack was prolonged.

Obvious conclusions, right.  Having been in and seen fights, one punch to the face can break a nose, which causes black eyes (black eyes even occur in non-broken nose strikes too), and can scrape the knuckles.  Of course, falling on concrete can scrape knuckles too.

But, in any case, Zimmerman simply asking Martin why he was in the neighborhood doesn’t give Martin the right to start striking him or pounding his head into the concrete sidewalk.

Yes, the left are the ones sensationalizing this story....

[duvaldude08]

Lesson Learned:

Dont ever stalk someone with your car, then jump out to confront them. If Trayvon kicked his ass he deserved it. I know If I was walking through my subdivision at night and some freakin idiot was following me, then jumped out of their vehicle at me, I would have beat them down to.

[bill]

Lesson Learned

It was never about race and that does not fit into the narrative here.