Lessons Learned from Trayvon Martin

[duvaldude08]

Lesson Learned

It was never about race and that does not fit into the narrative here.

Cant agree with that. Being Africian American my self, I often get profiled. It was never about zimmerman being racist though. I still believe he profiled Martin. Heck cops do it all the time. He seen a black kid with a hoodie on and assumed he was up to no good. Thats profiling.

[bill]

Agreed but it would be the same for any young male in a hoodie walking through a neighborhood looking out of place. Usually those kids do not follow someone back to their car and beat some ass.

[duvaldude08]

Agreed but it would be the same for any young male in a hoodie walking through a neighborhood looking out of place. Usually those kids do not follow someone back to their car and beat some ass.

zimmerman deserved it. He is not the police and he disobeyed the dispatcher directions. I would have kicked his ass too. You dont stalk someone and not expect them to react. Zimmerman had no business stalking the kid from the beginning.

[subro]

And we're off...

[bill]

Agreed but it would be the same for any young male in a hoodie walking through a neighborhood looking out of place. Usually those kids do not follow someone back to their car and beat some ass.

zimmerman deserved it. He is not the police and he disobeyed the dispatcher directions. I would have kicked his ass too. You dont stalk someone and not expect them to react. Zimmerman had no business stalking the kid from the beginning.

He lived in the neighborhood and was on neighborhood watch. He obeyed the dispatcher and went back to his truck. That is where he was attacked.

By your logic(lack of) Martin got what he deserved. By your reasoning and maturity my guess is that you would not have kicked anyones ass. 

[cityimrov]

Could it be possible that there are no heroes or good guys in this story?  Does every story have to have a good guy?  Do we have to take sides and pick one or the other?

[bill]

I am not picking one. There are only losers in this situation.

[bill]

Agreed but it would be the same for any young male in a hoodie walking through a neighborhood looking out of place. Usually those kids do not follow someone back to their car and beat some ass.

zimmerman deserved it. He is not the police and he disobeyed the dispatcher directions. I would have kicked his ass too. You dont stalk someone and not expect them to react. Zimmerman had no business stalking the kid from the beginning.

He lived in the neighborhood and was on neighborhood watch. He obeyed the dispatcher and went back to his truck. That is where he was attacked.

By your logic(lack of) Martin got what he deserved. By your reasoning and maturity my guess is that you would not have kicked anyones ass.

meh.  thats a leap of faith.

Trayvons father also lives in the neighborhood, and Zimmerman was a self appointed neighborhood watch of one.  No one asked or appointed him to be 'patrolling' the neighborhood.

Also, trayvon's knuckles hardly mean that he attacked zimmerman first.   

But hey, as long as it fits your narrative, right?

Every bit of evidence that has been released and everything that every person said fits the same narrative. Not mine. Go curl up with your doctored NBC tapes and say 3 times "we are all victims".

[bill]

what a bizarre rant.

I suppose on FOX, all day long you keep hearing about these 'people' who are 'professional victims', and it just kind of makes sense to drop the 'victim' bomb whenever a minority or non right-winger is involved, but it really just comes across as bizarre out here in the real world.

But hey, me being a victim fits your narrative dunnit?

Why do you and others want to skew the facts so badly? Like before You being a victim is not my narrative just a fact.

[bill]

what a bizarre rant.

I suppose on FOX, all day long you keep hearing about these 'people' who are 'professional victims', and it just kind of makes sense to drop the 'victim' bomb whenever a minority or non right-winger is involved, but it really just comes across as bizarre out here in the real world.

But hey, me being a victim fits your narrative dunnit?

Why do you and others want to skew the facts so badly? Like before You being a victim is not my narrative just a fact.

mm hmm.  I see.  It all makes sense now.  I'm a victim (for reasons, unknown), trayvon martin is actually a murderer, and people in hoodies are criminals who need tracked down by stalkers wearing a security cap!

Thanks man.

Point in case. Nice narrative and story BTW.

[danem]

Interrupting this back and forth...From WOKV just now:

NEW INFORMATION being released in the 2nd degree murder case against George Zimmerman. State Attorney Angela Corey's office making several pieces of evidence public - including crime scene photos and images of Zimmerman's bloody injuries. There are also reports that Trayvon Martin had THC (the active chemical in cannabis) in his system at the time of his death.

[jaxnative]

It's going to be interesting to see if this trial occurs to find justice in this tragedy or just to stop a riot.

[stephenc]

It's going to be interesting to see if this trial occurs to find justice in this tragedy or just to stop a riot.

huh?

some jerk calls himself 'neighborhood watch', stalks a kid after being told to stop by cops, and then shoots the kid to death and you think a trial would be for some reason other than justice?

Well ok?

If this was a white kid in ortega who had been shot to death by a fake security guard, no one -----no one----- would be making this embarrassing fuss.

too bad there isn't an ignore button for some people. It would make this site more tolerable at times...

[stephenc]

It's going to be interesting to see if this trial occurs to find justice in this tragedy or just to stop a riot.

huh?

some jerk calls himself 'neighborhood watch', stalks a kid after being told to stop by cops, and then shoots the kid to death and you think a trial would be for some reason other than justice?

Well ok?

If this was a white kid in ortega who had been shot to death by a fake security guard, no one -----no one----- would be making this embarrassing fuss.

too bad there isn't an ignore button for some people. It would make this site more tolerable at times...

Thats why they made FOX, stephenc.  You could always turn the channel up a little louder so that you don't have to read opinions you don't like.

Intelligent opions that differ are great. Its the one that have no regard for the facts that we all get tired of.

[stephenc]

It's going to be interesting to see if this trial occurs to find justice in this tragedy or just to stop a riot.

huh?

some jerk calls himself 'neighborhood watch', stalks a kid after being told to stop by cops, and then shoots the kid to death and you think a trial would be for some reason other than justice?

Well ok?

If this was a white kid in ortega who had been shot to death by a fake security guard, no one -----no one----- would be making this embarrassing fuss.

too bad there isn't an ignore button for some people. It would make this site more tolerable at times...

Thats why they made FOX, stephenc.  You could always turn the channel up a little louder so that you don't have to read opinions you don't like.

Intelligent opions that differ are great. Its the one that have no regard for the facts that we all get tired of.

Then you should try not posting them.

I gotta admit that was funny. Totally irrelevant since I haven't posted an opinion either way, but funny none the less.