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Started by fieldafm, March 23, 2012, 08:17:27 AM

mikew

Attendance for the last two home games of the 2009 season were against the Dolphins and the Colts.   The Dolphins brought a lot of people up for that game.  Touchdown Jacksonville was created with the goal of selling enough tickets for that final home game against the Colts to lift the blackout. 

fsquid

Another problem is that the TV experience is so damn good now.  Why go to the stadium when I have HD at home and the Redzone?  Niners are the team of my youth, why shouldn't I take the kids to the beach and then catch the late matches on the Redzone?

I had PSLs when I lived in Charlotte for the Panthers, but what else was I gonna do in the fall?  There was no damn beach and the slopes weren't open yet.

duvaldude08

Quote from: fsquid on April 20, 2012, 11:31:33 PM
Another problem is that the TV experience is so damn good now.  Why go to the stadium when I have HD at home and the Redzone?  Niners are the team of my youth, why shouldn't I take the kids to the beach and then catch the late matches on the Redzone?

I had PSLs when I lived in Charlotte for the Panthers, but what else was I gonna do in the fall?  There was no damn beach and the slopes weren't open yet.

If you look around leauge wide, ticket sales are way down. Even the dolphins are considering tarps to reduce their capacity and the Redskins reduced their capacity for a second time in a row. The economy coupled with the awesome television experience is why people are choosing to stay home. Large NFL stadiums are just not fesiable anymore. People are not going to games like they used to. They see it as, why a buy a ticket that I really cant afford, when I can sit at home with HD and surround sound? No parking, no people, no heat. etc. That is why the NFL just renewed some phat TV contracts. That is where the revenue is coming in at now.
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Adam W

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Quote from: mikew on April 20, 2012, 09:04:26 PM
Attendance for the last two home games of the 2009 season were against the Dolphins and the Colts.   The Dolphins brought a lot of people up for that game.  Touchdown Jacksonville was created with the goal of selling enough tickets for that final home game against the Colts to lift the blackout.

I thought Touchdown Jacksonville was created to bring an NFL franchise to Jacksonville. Or did they re-use the name for something new?

Edit: I Googled it and see that they revived the organisation and gave it a new mandate.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-11-04/story/touchdown_jacksonville_revived_to_keep_jaguars_here

That article is notable for showing the original, ugly-ass Jaguars jersey.

duvaldude08

Quote from: Adam W on April 21, 2012, 07:48:42 AM
Quote from: mikew on April 20, 2012, 09:04:26 PM
Attendance for the last two home games of the 2009 season were against the Dolphins and the Colts.   The Dolphins brought a lot of people up for that game.  Touchdown Jacksonville was created with the goal of selling enough tickets for that final home game against the Colts to lift the blackout.

I thought Touchdown Jacksonville was created to bring an NFL franchise to Jacksonville. Or did they re-use the name for something new?

Edit: I Googled it and see that they revived the organisation and gave it a new mandate.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-11-04/story/touchdown_jacksonville_revived_to_keep_jaguars_here

That article is notable for showing the original, ugly-ass Jaguars jersey.

Yeah I think he was a little off base. Just a little about touchdown Jacksonville
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KenFSU

Thanks for the info guys!

Also.

The NFL needs to abolish the asinine blackout rule.

It is ridiculously and unfairly punitive toward small markets, whose citizens are forced to carry so much more per capita ticket obligation than giant MSAs.

fsquid

Quote from: duvaldude08 on April 21, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
Quote from: fsquid on April 20, 2012, 11:31:33 PM
Another problem is that the TV experience is so damn good now.  Why go to the stadium when I have HD at home and the Redzone?  Niners are the team of my youth, why shouldn't I take the kids to the beach and then catch the late matches on the Redzone?

I had PSLs when I lived in Charlotte for the Panthers, but what else was I gonna do in the fall?  There was no damn beach and the slopes weren't open yet.

If you look around leauge wide, ticket sales are way down. Even the dolphins are considering tarps to reduce their capacity and the Redskins reduced their capacity for a second time in a row. The economy coupled with the awesome television experience is why people are choosing to stay home. Large NFL stadiums are just not fesiable anymore. People are not going to games like they used to. They see it as, why a buy a ticket that I really cant afford, when I can sit at home with HD and surround sound? No parking, no people, no heat. etc. That is why the NFL just renewed some phat TV contracts. That is where the revenue is coming in at now.

yes, I wasn't implying it was a JAX only problem.  My father-in-law just goes to Panther games now when given tickets by clients, he no longer cares to buy them since I've moved down here.

duvaldude08

Quote from: fsquid on April 21, 2012, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on April 21, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
Quote from: fsquid on April 20, 2012, 11:31:33 PM
Another problem is that the TV experience is so damn good now.  Why go to the stadium when I have HD at home and the Redzone?  Niners are the team of my youth, why shouldn't I take the kids to the beach and then catch the late matches on the Redzone?

I had PSLs when I lived in Charlotte for the Panthers, but what else was I gonna do in the fall?  There was no damn beach and the slopes weren't open yet.

If you look around league wide, ticket sales are way down. Even the dolphins are considering tarps to reduce their capacity and the Redskins reduced their capacity for a second time in a row. The economy coupled with the awesome television experience is why people are choosing to stay home. Large NFL stadiums are just not feasible anymore. People are not going to games like they used to. They see it as, why a buy a ticket that I really cant afford, when I can sit at home with HD and surround sound? No parking, no people, no heat. etc. That is why the NFL just renewed some phat TV contracts. That is where the revenue is coming in at now.

yes, I wasn't implying it was a JAX only problem.  My father-in-law just goes to Panther games now when given tickets by clients, he no longer cares to buy them since I've moved down here.

Oh I know you weren't. I was just conversing, thats all.
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fieldafm

Anyone interested in Buying tickets?  You'll never have to worry about black outs, you'll be part of a teal out with 67k friends. 

mtraininjax

QuoteThe NFL needs to abolish the asinine blackout rule.

Why would they cut off their own head to allow lazy MFSOB's to sit at home and watch games? Abolish it, hell, they might as well play the games in Pakistan.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

KenFSU

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 22, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
QuoteThe NFL needs to abolish the asinine blackout rule.

Why would they cut off their own head to allow lazy MFSOB's to sit at home and watch games? Abolish it, hell, they might as well play the games in Pakistan.

Because it is remarkably skewed against smaller market teams.

Approximately speaking:

If one out of every 300 New Yorkers goes to a Giants or Jets game, no blackout will take place.

Roughly one out of every 200 residents needs to head down to Soldier Field to ensure the game is shown on local television.

But if one out of 25 Jacksonville residents shows up at Everbank Field, the game is likely getting blacked out and the city is going to get knocked for lack of support.

Look at NFL blackout numbers over the last few years, and the huge majority are in the smaller NFL markets (Tampa, Cincinnati, Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis, etc.) where the fans are disproportionately required to carry a way heavier per capita ticket-buying burden than the large markets.  To me -- all other things held constant -- that is being unfairly punitive to small markets simply because they are small markets.

The biggest myth in the sports world about Jacksonville is that we don't support our NFL team.

That is patently absurd, blackouts or no blackouts.

In 1995 when the Jaguars came into the league, the average NFL stadium capacity to MSA population ratio was between 3 and 3.5%.

We came in and built out a stadium -- foolishly, in my opinion -- at over 8 percent capacity/MSA population ratio.

If the Jaguars would have scaled the stadium to the MSA in the same way the rest of the league did on average, it would have contained a mere 28,000 (!!!) seats, yet there have been seasons like 2004 where we averaged nearly 70,000 a game yet were punished by Daddy NFL with six blackouts.

That is insane.

I buy season tickets because I enjoy the game day, in-person experience.

But in regards to the "lazy MFSOB's who sit at home and watch games," that you reference, if they find something else to do with their Sunday because their local team's games are blacked out and they don't feel like being extorted into buying tickets they really don't want simply because they don't live in a top 10 metro with a dozen Fortune 100s, I can't say I blame them.

Consumer preference for live sports is changing rapidly.

You might not see it in the large markets because the massive populations mask it, but across the board, live attendance is dropping in the smaller markets (with exceptions, but I don't know if OKC would be selling out every game without Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook).

The NFL needs to find a way to adjust quickly (and believe me, small markets will adjust in the future with 50,000-58,000 seat stadiums).





duvaldude08

^^ Thats for the research Ken. I agree. But trust me, NFL stadiums period will be getting smaller. The Bears had the right idea. They will never have an attendance issue with the smallest stadium and an enormous market. I just read on NBCsports that Miami is struggling holding on to their 30,000 season ticket holders compared to 60,000 they had only a few years ago, and they are a  huge market. I prefer to go to games, but times are really changing and people have such a good experience at home they would rather not even go to the games. I was telling a friend of mine that I laugh when people say we dont support our team. We have a tiny market and were doing better than the cities with populations twice our size. Its really crazy.
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fieldafm

Please start a seperate thread for all of your blackout-related talk.

I am offering to put up my own cash and prizes in order to help sell tickets, please be respectful of that. 

This is the last week to sign up for the 30 Game Plan which lets you lock in this season's prices for the next 3 years via an interest-free payment plan.

It is also the last week to take advantage of an 8 month, interest free payment plan for one year season ticket agreements. 

If you or someone you know is interested... they can also get a complementary gift certificate to dinner at a choice of locally-owned restaurants and possibly win one of three great prizes of autographed merchandise.

No better deal in town. 

fieldafm


This is the last week to sign up for the 30 Game Plan which lets you lock in this season's prices for the next 3 years via an interest-free payment plan.

It is also the last week to take advantage of an 8 month, interest free payment plan for one year season ticket agreements. 

If you or someone you know is interested... they can also get a complementary gift certificate to dinner at a choice of locally-owned restaurants and possibly win one of three great prizes of autographed merchandise.

No better deal in town. 

mtraininjax

Just read where Bob Kraft spent 325 million of his own money in 2002 to build Gilette stadium. If the Jags complain about Everbank, I say, let them build a new stadium with their own money. Khan could do it, but he just made a large purchase of the Jags too, so may be a few years off.

The City should get out of the business of owning buildings, we suck at managing their construction and are so-so on managing the structure.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field