SAVE THE FERRY

[wsansewjs]

So how much money does the ferry have to loose before you wont support it Ock?

How much money do the highways have to lose before you wont support them, RM Howard?

How many more posts that is consistent of questions will it takes until both of you answer?

-Josh

Josh

Huh?

The questions are rhetorical. 

Not sure where you are going with this?

I am just playing with you guys!

With much best regards,
-Josh

[Tacachale]

Signed, enthusiastically. I will also be spreading this petition on as well.

[urbanlibertarian]

The ferry has always been treated differently than the other river crossings in the county.  Should it be?  Back in the pre-Hazouri days when we had 4 toll bridges didn't the tolls more than cover the capital and O&M costs of those bridges?

[ChriswUfGator]

Great place for a cruise ship terminal...

But I thought the people of Mayport doesn't want a cruise terminal there.

-Josh

Hey, Mayport people, what would you like here?  Sike.  Eminent domain, bitches.

Virtually impossible in Florida now. We passed several house bills and a constitutional amendment banning eminent domain for private purposes, following Kelo v City of New London.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Virtually impossible in Florida now. We passed several house bills and a constitutional amendment banning eminent domain for private purposes, following Kelo v City of New London.

Didn't I just read something in the paper about the FSDB in St. Augustine - a 'public' school with very 'private' purpose.

[Kaiser Soze]

Virtually impossible in Florida now. We passed several house bills and a constitutional amendment banning eminent domain for private purposes, following Kelo v City of New London.

What's virtually impossible?  JTA has eminent domain authority.

[Tacachale]

^Eminent domain for public purposes, not for facilitating private use.

[Kaiser Soze]

^Eminent domain for public purposes, not for facilitating private use.

Of course. I think that JTA could take the property for use as a port though.

[Tacachale]

^Eminent domain for public purposes, not for facilitating private use.

Of course. I think that JTA could take the property for use as a port though.

A port would not be under their purview. That would be the Port.

[tufsu1]

^ JaxPort has eminent domain powers too.

That said, JTA could easily be handed the ferry...and yes, they could use eminent domain powers as needed for the ferry and ancillary transportation purposes (including adjacent development).

[ChriswUfGator]

^Eminent domain for public purposes, not for facilitating private use.

Of course. I think that JTA could take the property for use as a port though.

Sort of. I'd imagine that would be debatable as to whether a terminal built just to serve Carnival Cruise lines (obviously a private business) would be considered a public purpose. It very well might not fly, the law has changed significantly since emininent domain was really booming. The ferry is a good example, let's say the port authority needed extra land for a new ferry dock, they could take the neighborhing property through eminent domain because the ferry clearly is a public use. A private cruise ship, or a publicly-funded facility that serves nothing but private cruise ships, would be very debatable. If they need to build a highway, or a school, or whatever, that's all fine too, those are public purposes.

[urbanlibertarian]

House votes to overturn eminent domain ruling:

House votes to overturn Supreme Court decision on eminent domain
By Pete Kasperowicz - 02/28/12 05:19 PM ET

The House on Tuesday afternoon approved legislation that overturns a 2005 Supreme Court decision that affirmed the ability of states to take control of private property under the doctrine of eminent domain and hand it to another private developer.

Whole article here:  http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/213129-house-votes-to-overturn-supreme-court-property-rights-decision