Mr. Khan, please read

[marksjax]

I would suggest having the new owner start with asking JSO/COJ to look at changing the traffic flow off of Bay Street to make it pedestrian friendly.
That and keep Bill Prescott, he is a great asset.

[I-10east]

5. Reach out to the community somehow. If Green Bay can do it, I know Jacksonville can do it.

There's a big myth out there that the Jags aren't active in the community; That is totally not true. The players/former players are very active in the community, with many of these charitable good works going unreported. Although not the most highly visible, The Weavers did alot for this community (charity donations etc) So far in Khans short time owning the Jags, he seems more visible than the Weavers. There's no question that the Jags are heavily involved in the community.

The real question is that alot of the corporate community ( local Belks, Dillards etc) needs to start supporting the Jags instead of acting like a college in Alachua County really gives a damn about us in Jax. Belks at Roosevelt has TWO Gator signs, with no Jag, Nole or Bulldog sign in sight! I guess that one Gator sign wasn't enough. I complained to the cashier too. I'm thinking about boycotting these places.

[duvaldude08]

5. Reach out to the community somehow. If Green Bay can do it, I know Jacksonville can do it.

There's a big myth out there that the Jags aren't active in the community; That is totally not true. The players/former players are very active in the community, with many of these charitable good works going unreported. Although not the most highly visible, The Weavers did alot for this community (charity donations etc) So far in Khans short time owning the Jags, he seems more visible than the Weavers. There's no question that the Jags are heavily involved in the community.

The real question is that alot of the corporate community ( local Belks, Dillards etc) needs to start supporting the Jags instead of acting like a college in Alachua County really gives a damn about us in Jax. Belks at Roosevelt has TWO Gator signs, with no Jag, Nole or Bulldog sign in sight! I guess that one Gator sign wasn't enough. I complained to the cashier too. I'm thinking about boycotting these places.

I agree I-10. But Ive come to realize that there are just some people in these that are stuck in the "small town" college mindset. And thats fine. Im okay with the 62,000 fans that attended the games this year, and we will continue to build out fan base from there. We dont need these people who think Jacksonville is a college hick town. I swear 25% of Jacksonville needs to move to Gainesville.  LOL

[Wacca Pilatka]

There's a big myth out there that the Jags aren't active in the community; That is totally not true. The players/former players are very active in the community, with many of these charitable good works going unreported.

That's for sure, and I can't believe how much goes unreported.  If only the T-U (besides Tania, who does good work on this subject) devoted one-tenth the energy to covering Jaguars' charitable work in Jacksonville as it does to covering Tim Tebow's work that has no impact on Jacksonville.

I can't believe the number of Facebook fights I've gotten into with people who think the Jaguars don't do anything in the community.  Admittedly, these people often tend or at least seem to be of the "Gators or Tim-first and we wish the Jaguars didn't exist" mentality.

[mtraininjax]

The Jags give back more millions to the community than anyone else. PGA Tour is second, but without them, the city non-profits would be dirt poor. Ask the Sharks how much they contribute back to the city, nice trophy, but how many kids and families have they helped with that trophy?

[Tacachale]

Well... the Jags also cost the city money. I don't think anyone really knows what the actual numbers breakdown is, but major league sports teams rarely even break even for their cities. So long as we're not just bleeding money at them I'm not complaining - I consider it a quality of life purchase.

As for the college boys, "college hick town" is not a combination of words you hear very often.

And it's not as if there's no college football background here -  we have one of the routinely largest bowl games, and Florida-Georgia, one of the city's most exiting weekends, is nearing on 100 years in Jax. And both have been at it since long before the Jaguars.

College and pro football can co-exist in the hearts of the populace. If you don't believe it just visit any sports bar in Ohio or Michigan.

[duvaldude08]

Well... the Jags also cost the city money. I don't think anyone really knows what the actual numbers breakdown is, but major league sports teams rarely even break even for their cities. So long as we're not just bleeding money at them I'm not complaining - I consider it a quality of life purchase.

As for the college boys, "college hick town" is not a combination of words you hear very often.

And it's not as if there's no college football background here -  we have one of the routinely largest bowl games, and Florida-Georgia, one of the city's most exiting weekends, is nearing on 100 years in Jax. And both have been at it since long before the Jaguars.

College and pro football can co-exist in the hearts of the populace. If you don't believe it just visit any sports bar in Ohio or Michigan.

The question is...can they co-exist in Jacksonville. Since the Jaguars inception, there are been this Gator versus Jaguars thing going on, and its mostly with Gator fans. Dont get me wrong, there are college AND NFL football fans in this city. Ive seen several people with one Gator flag and one Jaguar flag on their car. But lets be real, Jacksonville is a big city, that has a "small country town" mindset. How will we ever balance that out is beyond me.

[Tacachale]

^What I'm saying is that I don't buy that college football fandom is inherently a mark of a "small town" mindset. It's a Southern thing (though obviously not exclusive to the South), but not a "small town" thing. I can assure you there are just as many Gators, Noles, etc. fans in Orlando, Tampa, and Miami as there are in Jacksonville. Just as there are plenty of Ohio State fans in Cleveland, and Michigan/MSU fans in Detroit.

[I-10east]

^^^Talk about the corporate community in those places (Tampa Orlando, and Miami). Will you see an exclusive 'single college team section' with no other teams in stores down there like Jax's Dollar General (on Wilson & Lane)? It has a SIZEABLE Gator section with no other teams (college or pro) in sight. I HIGHLY doubt that you would see a college team dominate those FL three cities like the Gators dominates Jax in department stores with biased overbearing signage etc. The other FL metros maintain a 'big city' imagine, not Jax! We are set back forty years with 'our supposed true love' the Florida Gators!!! That make us look hick-towny as f*ck!!! I don't see how any true Jag fan can disagree with me.

[I-10east]

Since the Jaguars inception, there are been this Gator versus Jaguars thing going on, and its mostly with Gator fans.

+1000

It seems to me that most Jag fans are cool with the Gators, as they understand about the long tradition etc. It's the Gators fans that constantly hate, making excuses not to come to the game "I rather watch an exciting winning team" Not so much winning going on down there lately huh? It's like we don't even exist down there in Gainesville; I went to the Oaks Mall down there the other day (after a VA hospital appt, otherwise I would not be seen in that craphole town LOL) with no Jags gear in sight, not even in a hat store!!!But they did have the SD Chargers, because everyone knows about the longstanding SD and G-ville connection. 

[duvaldude08]

^^^Talk about the corporate community in those places (Tampa Orlando, and Miami). Will you see an exclusive 'single college team section' with no other teams in stores down there like Jax's Dollar General (on Wilson & Lane)? It has a SIZEABLE Gator section with no other teams (college or pro) in sight. I HIGHLY doubt that you would see a college team dominate those FL three cities like the Gators dominates Jax in department stores with biased overbearing signage etc. The other FL metros maintain a 'big city' imagine, not Jax! We are set back forty years with 'our supposed true love' the Florida Gators!!! That make us look hick-towny as f*ck!!! I don't see how any true Jag fan can disagree with me.

There is obviously a gator obession here far more than anywhere else in the country aside from Gainesville. IMO, I really dont care about how long the FL/GA has been here. Its good for the city from a financial aspect, but if wasnt for the Jaguars people would still be sayin, " Jacksonville who? Is that even on the map" But we can go on and on all day about this. So Im ending my thoughts. That is all 

[duvaldude08]

Since the Jaguars inception, there are been this Gator versus Jaguars thing going on, and its mostly with Gator fans.

+1000

It seems to me that most Jag fans are cool with the Gators, as they understand about the long tradition etc. It's the Gators fans that constantly hate, making excuses not to come to the game "I rather watch an exciting winning team" Not so much winning going on down there lately huh? It's like we don't even exist down there in Gainesville; I went to the Oaks Mall down there the other day (after a VA hospital appt, otherwise I wouldn't never be seen in that craphole town LOL) with no Jags gear in sight, not even in a hat store!!!But they did have the SD Chargers, because everyone knows the longstanding SD and G-ville connection.

Do you think Khan will stop the whole ticket gauge thing? I think its time to let it go. The "blackout" paranoia in this city needs to come to an end. The only time it should be mentioned is when were getting close to the deadline and we are short tickets. We have nothing to prove to anybody and its time for the hot topic in Jacksonville to stop being " Jags avoid blackout." Its time to move on. I don't think any other team has a "ticket gauge" on their website. Its time to just handle business and stop trying to prove ourselves to people.

Any thoughts?

[I-10east]

Yeah, it's time to put the ticket gauge to rest. With the new era + (hopefully) bringing in some quality draft picks and free agents, I don't foresee any problems with ticket sales atleast for the next few years. Khan has a boatload of money, and we have the highest surplus when it comes to money over the cap, so it will be very hard to not get good playmakers in here.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Maybe WW is more shrewd than we originally thought.  Next year is the last year of the original 30/30 plan.  The reason we're seeing such a renewal rate is due to the fact that a lot of people entered a contract for 3 years. 

IMO, we have to really do something to continue the trend.  The optimism is high right now, FA & the draft will either really help or really hurt, but if we can go a game or two into the playoffs next year - take down the meter - until then, let's keep the whale's med staff nearby.

[Tacachale]

^^^Talk about the corporate community in those places (Tampa Orlando, and Miami). Will you see an exclusive 'single college team section' with no other teams in stores down there like Jax's Dollar General (on Wilson & Lane)? It has a SIZEABLE Gator section with no other teams (college or pro) in sight. I HIGHLY doubt that you would see a college team dominate those FL three cities like the Gators dominates Jax in department stores with biased overbearing signage etc. The other FL metros maintain a 'big city' imagine, not Jax! We are set back forty years with 'our supposed true love' the Florida Gators!!! That make us look hick-towny as f*ck!!! I don't see how any true Jag fan can disagree with me.

There is obviously a gator obession here far more than anywhere else in the country aside from Gainesville. IMO, I really dont care about how long the FL/GA has been here. Its good for the city from a financial aspect, but if wasnt for the Jaguars people would still be sayin, " Jacksonville who? Is that even on the map" But we can go on and on all day about this. So Im ending my thoughts. That is all 

Well, I'm a "true Jags fan", and here's me disagreeing. If you really doubt the Gators' popularity in those cities, you clearly haven't spent a lot of time there.

When I lived down that way, I once watched a Florida game at a Gators-themed restaurant outside of Orlando called the "Thirsty Gator". I believe it's still there and still hopping.

There are multiple stores that sell nothing but Gators merchandise in the Tampa area.

http://www.gatorhaven.com/
http://www.proudgator.com/

Incidentally, these places exist despite neither city hosting a major Gators rivalry game every year. Branching out to other teams, there's at least one store devoted to Miami Hurricanes gear in Miami that I could find in Google, appropriately called "All Canes".

http://allcanes.com/

Honestly, I don't know of anything like any of those places in Jacksonville anymore. If college football fandom is the mark of small town mentality, then Miami, Tampa, and Orlando must be even more stuck in their small town ways than Jacksonville.