Republicans' Deliberate Use of Leninist Strategy to Bust Social Security Support

[finehoe]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/distort-attack-repeat-20110524

http://www.outfoxed.org/

[Tacachale]

Sorry, Faye, Fox News is available in Canada. This info comes from a friend from Manitoba, and verified by Fox News' own website:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184837,00.html

Canada does indeed have a law (Canada's Radio Act) that states that broadcasters can't air "any false or misleading news". Having a law against it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Additionally, at one point the CRTC did reject a permit for Fox to form a new Canadian channel distinct from Fox News, but it had nothing to do with "telling lies".

Like us Canada has a strong tradition of free speech; they would not go for the government "banning" entire channels that said things it didn't like.

Sorry Tacachale, I'm not inclined to believe a Fox website........no doubt those who receive satelite might be able to view The US Fox News station.

Understanding The History And Purpose Of FOX News


November 26, 2011
By Randy Reynolds



You’d think a thing like FOX couldn’t happen in the United States. Although they’re free to be crazy and free to support the Republican Party, you’d think Americans would be too smart to fall for the made-up outrages, dishonest reporting and relentless appeal to our meaner nature. Unfortunately, many Americans are not as smart as we used to assume: a huge swath of Americans (especially elderly white Southerners) believe FOX is just another news media outlet. They aren’t.

What is FOX? Pensitore Review (8-18-09) pulled no punches in answering that question: “ FOX News is indisputably the most popular cable news channel. And yet in 13 years, Fox has never broken a story. That’s okay, because it is not in the news business. It is in the news-shaping business. Its programming is an admixture of right-wing propaganda and fear-porn for feeble-minded paranoiacs, served up by spokesmodels who have no clue what they are reading.”






Whew! Could that be true? I report/You decide:

Nixon White House aide Roger Ailes in the 1970′s created fake news stories that favored President Nixon. He shipped these pre-mixed video packages to TV stations around the country at the expense of rightwing extremist Joseph Coors. It was all b.s. all the time, but the TV stations, pretending they had a correspondent in Washington, ran this propaganda as straight news. Now that Ailes runs FOX News, his goals are the same: to spread republicanism by altering the news.

FOX is a “relentless agenda-driven 24 hour news opinion propaganda delivery system” ~Jon Stewart

“They’re a Republican brand. They’re an extension of the Republican Party with some exceptions” ~Larry King

‎”[Fox is] widely viewed as a part of the Republican Party: take their talking points and put them on the air, take their opposition research and put it on the air. And that’s fine. But let’s not pretend they’re a news organization like CNN is.” ~Anita Dunn

There are thousands of examples of FOX not just “leaning” in a particular direction on an issue… but actively changing around the words and meanings of interviews to make them seem to say the opposite of what the person interviewed actually said; of lies about what happened; of incorrect graphics…for example, calling Congressman Mark Foley a Democrat when he got caught in gay chatter with pages and calling Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords a Republican when there was an outpouring of sympathy for her after she got shot.

FOX took a sparsely-attended tea-party rally in Washington and spliced in video of a heavily-attended event of an entirely different nature from months earlier.

FOX has gotten caught using image manipulation software to edit the appearance of people they don’t like to make them appear more sinister.

FOX alters poll results to mislead its viewers; in one case, their massacre of a Rasmussen poll on climate change ended up with a poll number of 120%â€"mathematically impossible, of course, except in FOX world.

On 4-24-09… White House correspondent Wendell Goler cropped a comment by Obama and took it out of context â€" effectively reversing the statement’s meaning â€" to falsely suggest that Obama supports creating a health care system “like the European countries.”

A 2010 Ohio State University study of public misperceptions about the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” found that viewers who relied on Fox News were 66% more likely to believe incorrect rumors than those with “low reliance” on Fox News ~Wikipedia

A study by the Program on International Policy Attitudes showed 67% of Fox viewers believed that the “U.S. has found clear evidence in Iraq that Saddam Hussein was working closely with the al Qaeda terrorist organization” (He wasn’t. He hated, feared and banned them, but you’d never know that by watching FOX).

Wait, it gets worse: For all other networks and news sources, the MORE you watch them, the MORE you know about the actual facts. Those who view CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, & NPR the MOST, have the BEST grasp of the FACTS. With FOX it â€" is- the â€" opposite!! Which is what gave birth to the mocking slogan: THE MORE YOU WATCH FOX, THE LESS YOU KNOW.

In the summer of 2003, 34% of Americans who did not follow the news very closely believed evidence had been found that linked Iraq with al Qaeda before the U.S. invasion. 42% of people who were moderate consumers of FOX news had that opinion. Among those who “watched FOX News very closely” … that number was 80% !! ~Political Science Quarterly, Vol. 118, #4 THE MORE YOU WATCH FOX, THE LESS YOU KNOW!

FOX News’ Happening Now cropped clips of Obama from an April 3 speech in France to falsely suggest that Obama only criticized the United States. In doing so, Happening Now joined conservative commentators and Fox News hosts who have cropped or misrepresented Obama’s overseas remarks to falsely suggest, in the words of host Sean Hannity, that Obama was “blam[ing] America first” and, more broadly, that Obama’s earlier overseas trip constituted an “apology tour.”

Fox News presented a clip of Joe Biden criticizing John McCain’s “the fundamentals of the economy are strong” statement…. Problem is, this was something Biden was QUOTING…from SIX MONTHS EARLIER… but it was edited by FOX to make it seem that Biden was stating it as his own opinion. The bogus clip was introduced by Live Desk co-host Martha MacCallum as comments Biden had made in interviews THIS WEEKEND.

FOX pushed the bogus stat that cap-and-trade would cost “every American family $1,761 annually.” PolitiFact.com has labeled the statistic false and noted that the talking point has been pushed by Republicans.

On 9/30/09 FOX Gregg Jarrett said on the air that the Obama Department of Justice “thinks it’s OK to intimidate white people, not OK to intimidate black people at the polls.”

‎”If we went back … to the fall of 2008, to the campaign, that was a time this country was in two wars that we had a financial collapse probably more significant than any financial collapse since the Great Depression. If you were a Fox News viewer in the fall election what you would have seen were that the biggest stories and the biggest threats facing America were a guy named Bill Ayers and a something called ACORN.” ~Anita Dunn

A 2011 Kaiser Family Foundation survey on U.S. misperceptions about health care reform found that Fox News viewers scored lower for factual knowledge than other news viewers â€" Wikipedia

It’s against the law to lie on television in Canada. Canadian conservatives tried to change that law so FOX could broadcast in Canada. They were unable to get the law changed, so FOX does not operate in Canada!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/26/understanding-the-history-and-purpose-of-fox-news/

Not comfortable with Fox lying? Stop watching Fox Faux News!

Free speech should not include hate speech or lying and pretending that's news.

You honestly believe that Fox is lying about which cable providers offer their channel in Canada?

It's interesting that you chose that article to rail against news sources spouting off false information. It's totally wrong about Fox not operating in Canada. In fact Fox News is available from most cable providers throughout the country as well as satellite (that is, the same way you get it here). For instance it's channel 145 in Winnipeg.

http://www.mts.ca/mts/personal/winnipeg/mts+ultimate+tv+service/channel+packages+and+pricing/find+a+channel

If you don't care for MTS's service you can still get it through Shaw:

http://www.shaw.ca/Television/Channel-Listings/Full-Channel-List/

Of course if you want some locally-grown conservative media, there's the Sun News Network, affectionately nicknamed "Fox News North".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_News_Network

So no, Fox News has not been "banned" in Canada.

[FayeforCure]

You don't have to believe Fox Faye - just google it.  And stop being a crybaby against Fox when you try passing crap off from very dubious sources.

It's been googled ad nauseum........here is something from someone who lives in Quebec:

Fox News - Banned in Canada?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I may be a bit late on this, but I just read about Fox News being banned in Canada. Then I read another article that stated it wasn't true.

Can someone please set the record straight? I have plenty of good reasons for wanting to move to Canada, but if this is true...I'm packing my bags TODAY!


   11-08-2011, 06:38 AM 
jambo101
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If you are referring to the rightwing Fox channel that has all the political talking heads we dont get that channel in Quebec.



Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/canada/1422030-fox-news-banned-canada-tax-move.html#ixzz1jwbZqW15

Correction: poster quoted says this further down:

Vidéotron, Canada's third largest cable company, has not added Fox News Channel to its lineup.

I've got Videotron as a provider which explains my lack of Fox news. for the other providers i guess if you want to subscibe to that channel you have that option..


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/canada/1422030-fox-news-banned-canada-tax-move.html#ixzz1jwdVhobp

[finehoe]

A year ago, Public Policy Polling ran its annual “TV News Trust Poll.” There were plenty of interesting tidbits, but there was one line from the pollster’s analysis that stood out: “Democrats trust everything but Fox. Republicans don’t trust anything but Fox.”

A year later, PPP is back with new results (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/01/3rd-annual-tv-news-trust-poll.html), which point in a very similar direction. Kevin Drum put together this great visual, which I’m blatantly stealing borrowing, showing self-identified Republicans’ attitudes towards all of the major broadcast news organizations. GOP voters trust one outlet â€" and only one outlet.



And as was the case last year, Dems and independents trust every major news organization, by varying degrees, except Fox News.

Kevin added (http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/01/chart-day-republicans-dont-trust-anyone-except-fox-news) that while everyone is subject to confirmation bias, the right and left are simply processing current events in different ways: “Liberals don’t immediately dismiss as a conspiracy everything they hear from the news media that doesn’t fit their preconceived notions. They might downplay unwelcome news or even ignore it, but they’re still willing to listen to it. Increasingly, conservatives simply aren’t. They want to believe the world is a certain way, and they’re just flatly not willing to countenance anything that might challenge those beliefs. This is not a healthy development for a modern democracy.”

I couldn’t agree more. This isn’t just about pointing and laughing at the absurdities of Republican news consumers relying exclusively on a Republican outlet. There’s overwhelming evidence (http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/) that these same Republican news consumers are dramatically confused, about a wide variety of important issues, most of the time. It’s not just because they rely on a deceptive propaganda outlet for information â€" it’s also because they don’t trust other outlets that might give them more reliable information.

The result is a large chunk of the American electorate that lives in an alternate political universe. It’s just not healthy.

[Tacachale]

You don't have to believe Fox Faye - just google it.  And stop being a crybaby against Fox when you try passing crap off from very dubious sources.

It's been googled ad nauseum........here is something from someone who lives in Quebec:

Fox News - Banned in Canada?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I may be a bit late on this, but I just read about Fox News being banned in Canada. Then I read another article that stated it wasn't true.

Can someone please set the record straight? I have plenty of good reasons for wanting to move to Canada, but if this is true...I'm packing my bags TODAY!


   11-08-2011, 06:38 AM 
jambo101
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        Join Date: Apr 2010
6,321 posts, read 2,868,194 times
Reputation: 3388



If you are referring to the rightwing Fox channel that has all the political talking heads we dont get that channel in Quebec.



Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/canada/1422030-fox-news-banned-canada-tax-move.html#ixzz1jwbZqW15

Correction: poster quoted says this further down:

Vidéotron, Canada's third largest cable company, has not added Fox News Channel to its lineup.

I've got Videotron as a provider which explains my lack of Fox news. for the other providers i guess if you want to subscibe to that channel you have that option..


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/canada/1422030-fox-news-banned-canada-tax-move.html#ixzz1jwdVhobp

So basically, "no, Fox News has not been 'banned' from Canada".

[FayeforCure]

It’s not just because they rely on a deceptive propaganda outlet for information â€" it’s also because they don’t trust other outlets that might give them more reliable information.

The result is a large chunk of the American electorate that lives in an alternate political universe. It’s just not healthy.

And of course they scoff at the idea of getting their news from multiple sources, because well, isn't that overly elitist to use an academic method for verifying accuracy?

I noticed Republicans never mind making unsourced bold statement, and they revel in being able to mislead. They think the are being clever and smart to undermine our safety in every sense of the word.

My favorite? The Clear Skies Act which is a pollution bill in disguise.

http://www.pbs.org/now/science/clearskies.html

[FayeforCure]

So basically, "no, Fox News has not been 'banned' from Canada".

From reading multiple sources.........Canadian law prohibits lying about Canadian news as was a Fox proposal back in 2004 for which they didn't get approval. Fox news lying about US  news is considered entertainment ha ha.

[BridgeTroll]

Sure seems like many you spend alot of time listenining to limbaugh, hannity and others and watching Fox.  Looks like alot of their audience are paranoid democrats...

[Tacachale]

So basically, "no, Fox News has not been 'banned' from Canada".

From reading multiple sources.........Canadian law prohibits lying about Canadian news as was a Fox proposal back in 2004 for which they didn't get approval. Fox news lying about US  news is considered entertainment ha ha.

Actually, no.

From reading multiple sources that are not forum posts and personal blogs, Fox was initially going to create a new venture with Winnipeg broadcaster Global Television called Fox News Canada, distinct from the American Fox News and featuring 35% Canadian content. This was approved by the CRTC. In 2003 Fox attempted to get a license to broadcast the American Fox News in Canada; this was denied largely because they had already been approved to create the Canadian channel. It had nothing to do with the regulation (which does exist, though it's not a law) prohibiting broadcasting "false or misleading news".

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041118.wxfoxnews18/BNStory/Entertainment/

The following year Fox indicated that it had no plans to go ahead with Fox News Canada, so the CRTC approved them to broadcast the American channel.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2004/11/18/fox_crtc041118.html

Faye, you may want to avoid making inaccurate claims while criticizing others for making inaccurate claims.

[Dog Walker]

John Stewart?

Do you really think Jon Stewart spews the equivalent amount of easily-disproved bullshit that a Sean Hannity or a Sarah Palin does?  Do Democratic politicians rush to Stewart's show to beg forgiveness when they go against the party line like Republican politicians do to Limbaugh's when they do the same?

Darn, I should have put a smiley after that post!  Just a joke folks.  Frankly he and Colbert are a more accurate translators of the news than Fox.

[finehoe]

Just a joke folks. 

Sorry!